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From Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator
Date Thu, 06 Feb 2014 18:06:47 GMT
HI Marvin,

The automatic email to dev@ list for github mirror PR, does it happen
for all ASF github mirrors or each podling need to do some setup to
make it work?


- Henry

On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Michael Joyce <joyce@apache.org> wrote:
>> How is doing a review on Github any different than doing a review on Review
>> Board?
>
> One is captured to Apache controlled channels and the other is not.
>
>> If there's concern that work on Github isn't being adequately mirrored on
>> the mailing lists then that sounds like an Infra problem to me.
>
> It's not an Infra problem.  It's the problem of any PMC which fails to ensure
> that all of its communications are properly archived.
>
> If anyone here is interested in contributing towards this feature, I encourage
> you to subscribe to the infrastructure-dev@apache list.  I also encourage
> everyone to ponder carefully:
>
> *   How to ensure that no information is lost when capturing communications
>     in GitHub channels through notifications to our dev lists.
> *   The impact of adding GitHub integration features on long-term ASF Infra
>     labor costs.
>
>> There are plenty of hooks [1] that makes this easy to do and, if I'm not
>> mistaken, pull requests through Github are already supposed to mail dev@.
>
> That's right.  I've actually worked on the specific hook that does that[1][2].
>
>> I would assume that any comment on them should as well.
>
> Why would you "assume" that GitHub comments are being mailed to dev lists?
> They are not.
>
> Every Apache PMC member is tasked with oversight of their project, and that
> includes ensuring that all decisions happen on the dev list and are properly
> documented.  It is not enough to "assume" that Infra is taking care of
> archival -- ensuring that the archival actually happens is the PMC's direct
> responsibility.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4651
> [2] Thread on legal-discuss@apache: http://s.apache.org/Nhx
>
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