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From Steve Loughran <>
Subject Re: Hoya Proposal
Date Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:36:12 GMT
On 15 January 2014 02:13, Andreas Neumann <> wrote:

> I see. So is Hoya limited to HBase and Accumulo? Or is it open for any
> other type of existing application? If so, won't it have some common
> abstraction that is shared by all of them? That is where I see the
> similarity with Twill.
it started off as pure hbase, but now has the notion of a provider which
has a client-side and server side

client side
 -helps set up the template JSON file to describe the cluster (e.g. adds
default values),
 -patches the configuration directory supplied at creation time with
whatever options it wants (e.g links up & ZK settings in
 -does preflight validation of cluster options
 -can also add its own .tar.gz to the resources of the AM (or any other

server side
 -runs in the AM and sets up everything needed to run instances of a role
(e.g. HBase master, Accumulo GC, ..)
 -can run code in the AM to help set things up (e.g. Accumulo provider
service runs bin/accumulo init if needed)
 -TODO: liveness monitoring

the requirements of an app to be deployable are

> Whereas, if it is a separate effort for each existing application, say
> HBase, then what is the end goal for Hoya when it comes out of incubation?
> To merge it back into HBase proper?
Now that it supports >1 application, it can't go into HBase. The individual
provider services can (their implementation classes are worked out via the

But as we use the accumulo and HBase apps for testing, its really good to
have them both in the hoya project right now -a project that builds
downstream of both and needs
to be given the Hadoop filesystem paths to .tar.gz files of each app.

There's nothing to stop 3rd party apps joining in, indeed, one thing I'd
like someone to do is actually have Hoya deploy SmartFrog .tar.gz files and
pass down configurations that deploy applications -for example jetty-based
web servers. That'd take an intern working at HP Labs over the summer, maybe


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