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From Jean-Baptiste Onofré ...@nanthrax.net>
Subject Re: Hoya Proposal
Date Thu, 09 Jan 2014 17:27:09 GMT
Steve did already indeed.

Regards
JB

On 01/09/2014 06:23 PM, larry mccay wrote:
> Hi Alejandro -
>
> I believe that Steve has already acknowledged that a package rename is
> required and that the project is likely not appropriate for Hadoop proper.
>
> thanks,
>
> --larry
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Alejandro Abdelnur <tucu@cloudera.com>wrote:
>
>> I may have not been clear enough, I was referring to using
>> 'org.apache.hadoop' as package prefix for a project other than hadoop.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you can work out a plan to do this directly in Hadoop, there's no
>>> need for the incubator. You just build and and contribute it in
>>> cahoots with them, and earn commit over there as you go.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Alejandro Abdelnur <tucu@cloudera.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Mmmh, if i recall correctly this has come up in the past with other
>>> projects and it was decided against it. Could you please check with the
>>> hadoop folks about it?
>>>>
>>>> Thx
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 9, 2014, at 1:19 AM, Steve Loughran <stevel@hortonworks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> no its wrong, it should all be under org.apache.hoya.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had the hadoop prefix so that I could perhaps put it straight into
>> the
>>>>> hadoop code as another tools module -no need for incubation. But as
>> the
>>>>> actual providers and all tests are related to the deployment of hbase
>>> and
>>>>> accumulo, it really comes downstream of those.
>>>>>
>>>>> so a rename is needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> but yes, ASF headers everywhere
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8 January 2014 22:48, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like how the initial code already put under "
>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hoya"  with correct ASF header =)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Henry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Steve Loughran <
>> stevel@hortonworks.com
>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm starting to put together the incubation proposal for Hoya:
a
>> tool
>>> to
>>>>>>> dynamically deploy applications such as HBase or Accumulo on
YARN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HoyaProposal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does already work to the extent that it can bring up either
>>>>>> application,
>>>>>>> run different clusters of different versions, and remember where
>>>>>> containers
>>>>>>> were allocated so that on application restart it can ask for
them
>>> back.
>>>>>>> That increases data locality and makes a big difference with
HBase.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It also needs a lot more work -YARN-896 is adding YARN features
that
>>>>>> help,
>>>>>>> but there's lots of fun to be had in Hoya including
>>>>>>> -leading edge work in failure handling, modelling cluster
>>> unreliability
>>>>>>> and reacting to it. Can we move beyond simple blacklisting to
>>>>>>> "greylisting", accepting unreliable boxes if we have no altenatives
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then there's adding more providers, to support different application
>>>>>>> installations -I'm starting to write a functional test framework
>> which
>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> provider-specific workload generations
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other features: AM should have a web ui that redirects to the
live
>>>>>>> endpoints to all the app-specific UIs (e.g. HBase Master GUI),
as
>>> well as
>>>>>>> displaying cluster state itself, for people and for management
>>> tools....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To summarise: lots of fun to be had
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -steve
>>>>>>>
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>> --
>> Alejandro
>>
>

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Jean-Baptiste Onofré
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