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From: Patrick Hunt <phunt@apache.org>
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:41:29 -0800
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Subject: Re: S4 Podling - May need some help
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On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any updates from the mentors?
>

I reviewed/signedoff on the report. I've commented both in public and
in private to the s4 folks that they should consider retirement as an
option. I was/am waiting to see what the community decides.

Patrick

> I remember there were some sparks shown to re-energize the community
> about few months ago like to have weekly chats
>
> - Henry
>
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:10 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I completed my shepherd review of S4 now that their board report is in
>> place.  Here's a copy:
>>
>> The board report reflects my sentiments as well.  S4 seems to be in a
>> bit of rut.  I tried kicking off some conversations on the dev mailing
>> list, no luck.  It seems like there are at best five active
>> participants, between the users list and dev list.  Considering that
>> there hasn't been a commit since last board report, it doesn't come
>> off as a good sign for me.  I think retirement may be an option to
>> start exploring.
>>
>> It seems like through a combination of low dev activity and low user
>> feedback S4 is having difficulty progressing.
>>
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