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From Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@oracle.com>
Subject Re: Do we need a disclaimer? (Storm)
Date Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:26:07 GMT
IIRC, JSPWiki had exactly the same issue when it entered the incubator.

There were a non-Apache release or two while it was incubating, using the non-Apache package
names, hosted on non-Apache servers and announced on non-Apache mail lists. 

Since it wasn't an Apache release, it was not announced on announce at apache.org but was
announced on the Apache incubating user and dev lists. 

I think Storm could do the same. There is specific interest in the incubating Storm community
but not general interest in the wider Apache community.

Craig

On Nov 15, 2013, at 7:10 AM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote:

> Agreed. It will not be hosted or linked to from any Apache site.
> 
> On another thread on the storm dev list, I have an open question as to whether or not
it’s okay to announce it (with a disclaimer that it is not an Apache release) on the Apache
mailing lists dev/user@storm.incubator.apache.org, or if any announcements should only go
to the google groups mailing list.
> 
> - Taylor
> 
> On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Also, if it's not an Apache release, it probaly should not be hosted and
>> listed at Apache to avoid confusion.
>> 
>> On Thursday, November 14, 2013, Ted Dunning wrote:
>> 
>>> First few words should read "A disclaimer ..."
>>> 
>>> I blame a combo of jet lag and *really* slow net link.  Not the guy who hit
>>> send without proofing, of course.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com<javascript:;>>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I disclaimer to clarify that the 0.9.0 release is neither an Apache
>>>> top-level project release nor an Apache incubator release is probably
>>> good.
>>>> A file name like DISCLAIMER might be good.
>>>> 
>>>> I would worry about it being clear rather than being totally crafted by a
>>>> true legal mind.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:48 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com<javascript:;>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The Strom project is just entering the incubator. We have promised our
>>>>> community that we will issue a stable 0.9.0 release prior to switching
>>> over
>>>>> to the Apache release process. We are currently in a release candidate
>>>>> process.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now that we are an Incubator project, but not yet releasing under the
>>>>> Apache process, should we be including a disclaimer with our pre-Apache
>>>>> releases stating so?
>>>>> 
>>>>> It feels like we should have some sort legalese in place.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Taylor
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Craig L Russell
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