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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority
Date Sat, 23 Nov 2013 14:29:21 GMT
On 19 November 2013 08:29, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9 November 2013 12:17, Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> ...
>>> My guess is that "Lazy Majority" is used because Majority implies more than 50%
of possible voters need to vote.
>>
>> My guess is that it is a misprint for Lazy Consensus....
>
> I'd say so - "lazy majority" is mentioned at
> http://ant.apache.org/bylaws.html but I didn't know there was such a
> concept in our projects.

The Ant bylaws do at least define what the terms mean [1], but
unfortunately it seems they have chosen different names from the ones
in the ASF Glossary [2]

For example:

Ant has
Consensus: For this to pass, all voters with binding votes must vote
and there can be no binding vetoes (-1). Consensus votes are rarely
required due to the impracticality of getting all eligible voters to
cast a vote.

ASF has:
'Consensus approval' refers to a vote (sense 1) which has completed
with at least three binding +1 votes and no vetos. Compare Majority
Approval.

Ant:
Lazy Consensus: Lazy consensus requires 3 binding +1 votes and no
binding vetoes.

ASF:
Lazy consensus(Also called 'lazy approval'.):  A decision-making
policy which assumes general consent if no responses are posted within
a defined period.

This is a bit of a mess.

[1] http://ant.apache.org/bylaws.html#Approvals
[2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html


> I'd rather keep it simple and avoid mentioning it in the incubator docs.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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