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From Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards
Date Mon, 18 Nov 2013 11:41:57 GMT
On 17/11/13 11:17, Upayavira wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013, at 04:59 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/16/13 8:47 AM, "Upayavira" <uv@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I see the difference between a release auditor and an IPMC
>>> member. If someone is sufficiently clued up to audit a release, then
>>> they're surely ready to join the Incubator PMC. Am I missing something?
>> To me, there is more responsibility in being on the IPMC, like reviewing
>> proposals for new podlings and voting on their graduation and becoming a
>> mentor.  Personally, that's why I don't want to be on the IPMC, but I
>> might be willing to help IP audit a podling's release.  Just like some
>> projects don't have all committers on the PMC, a Release Auditor is just
>> someone who can do that specific task, and there is no need to vote them
>> in if they are already on some other TLP PMC because any member of a TLP
>> PMC supposedly knows how to do release auditing.
>>
>>>
>>> My interest is in a lesser level of involvement, where someone has shown
>>> merit within their own PPMC and can get a binding vote there, but
>>> no-where else. That feels to me like a very useful intermediate step to
>>> have.
>> I agree, except for the no-where else part.  If you know how to check a
>> RAT report and have an idea of what should be in the NOTICE files, you
>> should be able to help out any other podling by reviewing their release
>> and casting a binding vote so they can learn how to do that.  I'd say
>> that
>> 3 IPMC members must vote to give a person Release Auditor status if they
>> are not already on a TLP PMC.  Consider this:  I am an the Flex PMC but
>> not the IPMC, but if I join the PPMC of some new podling, why shouldn't I
>> be able to cast a binding vote for that podling's releases?
>
> With a two tier model - with PPMC membership granting voting rights on
> podling releases, then a podling would start with just mentors on its
> PPMC. If you clearly knew what you were doing, you'd get voted onto the
> PPMC pretty quickly, and thus you'd be able to vote on your releases.

I am concerned that it would be dis-empowering to the incoming community 
if at least the active and major developers of the podling were not on 
the PPMC at the start.

	Andy

>
> Upayavira
>
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