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From David Crossley <cross...@apache.org>
Subject Re: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Date Fri, 08 Nov 2013 02:46:25 GMT
John D. Ament wrote:
> Well, must be missing something.  I'm 'johndament' yet I don't have write
> access to the trunk.

I used to understand svn auth, but not so sure now.
Following this:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#who-auth-karma

It seems to me that all in "committers"  as well as
all in the "incubator" group have rw access
to incubator/public/trunk/

Do your fellow project committers also have this trouble?

If so, i wonder if this identifies a problem which indicates
why few people have edited podlings.xml or fix the website docs.
If so, then i would be horrifed that they have not told us.

-David

> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:26 PM, David Crossley <crossley@apache.org> wrote:
> > John D. Ament wrote:
> > > Well, I can appreciate the frustration.
> > >
> > > I'm willing to help clean up some of this stuff.  Any special rights
> > > required to edit podlings.xml?
> >
> > IIUC then everyone who comes through the Incubator is able:
> > http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator
> >
> > -David
> >
> > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM, David Crossley <crossley@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > John D. Ament wrote:
> > > > > David,
> > > > >
> > > > > On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating at
> > [1]
> > > > >
> > > > > Note the table on the 3rd bullet.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/
> > > >
> > > > Because these "graduated" projects do not tidy up after themselves.
> > > > They seem to leave everything for other Incubator volunteers to
> > > > clean up in their wake.
> > > >
> > > > Such a mess causes the Incubator tools, that try so hard to help
> > > > us all, to become overloaded and then not as useful because
> > > > there is too much fluff.
> > > >
> > > > DeltaSpike is not the only one.
> > > >
> > > > See the list that poor Clutch tries so desperately to highlight:
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#other
> > > > which also attempts to directly link them to the relevant docs.
> > > >
> > > > The projects listing http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
> > > > also tries to encourage projects to maintain their own records.
> > > >
> > > > I presume that these projects will continue such behaviour
> > > > as TLPs.
> > > >
> > > > (Sorry if i come across as frustrated in these threads.
> > > > I certainly am, but trying to curb it.)
> > > >
> > > > -David
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Crossley <crossley@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > David Crossley wrote:
> > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi David
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK.
We got
> > batchee
> > > > mail
> > > > > > > > this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> > > > > > > by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> > > > > > > e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is only the "commits" archives.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> > > > > > > Infra until your resources are properly established.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail
about
> > > > > > > how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> > > > > > > I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> > > > > > > that and add it to this doc.
> > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The "Voting Status" monitor (the poor neglected thing!)
> > > > > > has also been trying to warn about this issue.
> > > > > > See the top-left of http://incubator.apache.org/
> > > > > > and then the bottom table.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > > > > > > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > > > > > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > > > > > > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2013/11/7 David Crossley <crossley@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE
and Sirona.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > > > > > > > > so this goes to general@ list.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not
their dev
> > lists.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does anyone know why?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Are they missing moderators or something?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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