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From Upayavira ...@odoko.co.uk>
Subject Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards
Date Fri, 08 Nov 2013 10:54:27 GMT


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013, at 08:10 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> IMO the IPMC cannot delegate legal oversight to a sub-committee  (for
> example) unless that sub-committee consisted of members of the IPMC. The
> reason for this is hat only members of the IPMC are recognized by the
> board
> and thus only IPMC members have binding votes.

That is what the board has done to date. That is not the only
possibility in terms of what the board *could* do, which is much more
where my question was leading.

> That doesn't prevent social conventions that say IPMC members only vote in
> podlings that recognize them as members of their project community.
> 
> Furthermore, the IPMC could define a "task force" or whatever you want to
> call it, which is responsible for the health of the IPMC as a whole,
> including assisting podling with absent mentors and insufficient IPMC
> representation.
> 
> My point is that once we think in terms of social conventions pretty much
> anything is possible.

My issue is that granting PMC membership is too big a step for many
podling members. Going from being newbie podling member, to a part of a
team responsible for 50+ incubator projects is, with the freedom to
mentor other podlings, is too big a step for most podling members, and
will remain scary even if you attempt to restrict 'powers' through
social convention.

Whereas, if it were possible to grant a lesser role, which allowed
podling members to cast binding votes for their podling alone, we'd
likely see a lot more podling members voted into that position (sure,
they can only be voted in by Incubator PMC members).

I'm afraid I find it very tedious us attempting to shoe-horn the
incubator into a structure (a standard PMC) that just doesn't quite fit,
rather than seeking a structure that will suit the both the incubator
and the foundation, allowing merit to be recognised in individuals at a
range of stages within a podlings lifecycle.

Upayavira

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