Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B76A1080F for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20649 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2013 17:09:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 20230 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2013 17:09:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 20199 invoked by uid 99); 2 Oct 2013 17:09:42 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 17:09:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-pb0-f44.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username cutting, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 17:09:42 +0000 Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id xa7so1164526pbc.17 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 10:09:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=br8AmPKrV3JaG6WAthk8WXYmtw01MJcYZ1wYI55RWec=; b=EyKKbfM8abAkyvP3ZzLiKI5PqTsX2tsWlB0eq2MM+Vv67GNJhZYdzHfAmlWhZwHVxv c5v27XuLEVa14H7csFP4gcYA9VyDi+XRPxlE5vouMlilUQA1N+Z43r4WAUzYsNzg2oqA 3VP87lyrs/qxloPKiXYp/6KGsFsc7WzCOPaBQVk928NjWWSDgfVhBs9KXd4+J7i/4vJg 9BtiZhGEPGvf0MIDHSyFLAd56JTD+fI9tvQYfxXLFB1akxrdESw2fO21K99sEPcgJxE3 LLNMw1jL8lzgdg2rKhkY7PJmF7cc1piBpZuFblET6ZCHfhj2526W1YpGsFkLbjMCa+1s ZBiA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.158.196 with SMTP id ww4mr4383229pab.57.1380733781828; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 10:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.126.104 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:09:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:09:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Apache project bylaws From: Doug Cutting To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > To me, agreeing on "the norm" is not the same as policy, especially policy > that does not allow for exceptions. I agree. Establishing whether there is a norm is a useful first step. That's what I'm trying to take. Thus far I've seen noone disagree that consensus is most common for committer additions at Apache. I've also seen folks suggest that they prefer having norms than having explicit bylaws for their projects. I don't anticipate any policy being established as a result of this discussion, except perhaps better documenting what the assumed default is for projects that don't choose to have explicit bylaws. > And again, to me, "consensus != unanimity". This might be another case where better documentation would help. In my experience at Apache, consensus is equated with unanimity. Doug --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org