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From Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Date Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:58:46 GMT
I like it!
+1

JLouis


2013/10/2 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>

> +1
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>
>> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
>> Any objections?
>>
>> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
>>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english
>>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
>>> stands
>>> for. But I like its sound.
>>>
>>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
>>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is
>>> used
>>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
>>>
>>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
>>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/**celtic.htm<http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm>
>>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
>>>
>>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
>>> monitoring.
>>> There is a project management software called marlin:
>>> http://www.projectwizards.net/**de/merlin/<http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/>
>>>
>>> I believe we currently have:
>>>
>>> Apache Leitstand
>>> Apache Nechtan
>>> Apache Merlin
>>> Apache Sirona
>>> Apache Heimdall
>>> Apache Dagr
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>
>>>  Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due to
>>>> the
>>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not
>>>> good
>>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I also see thor is being used by infra:
>>>>> status.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, who
>>>>> is
>>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he
was
>>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
>>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall was
>>>>> named as the "father of all humans".
>>>>>
>>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
>>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of
our
>>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
>>>>> happens ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old
>>>>> myths
>>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through
>>>>> heaven.
>>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I imagine
>>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
>>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
>>>>>>> Buildr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much
a
>>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided,
>>>>>> we'd
>>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
>>>>>> infrastructure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Tammo
>>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <olamy@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what about Baldr?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change
the name
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> TLP?
>>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <
>>>>>>>> grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I would like to throw in this document:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/****foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>>>> <h**ttp://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the
process
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  officially.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few
comments
>>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - CoMon
>>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have
a trademarks
>>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Leitstand
>>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any
repositories
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something
were you
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring
would
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses
things well
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Thor
>>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people
use that
>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check
this more
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch
from a
>>>>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  point of view. I like Baldr very much from that
meaning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun
and closer
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose
"Apache Leitstand"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make
also a nice name
>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only
works if the GUI is
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if
I understood
>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/******Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://de.**wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>>> **>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://de.**wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier
Lamy <olamy@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  But before starting the vote I'd like to
find an other name for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder"
(note, It's a popular
>>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition
looks to be rude for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  :-).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time
to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van
Lessen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau"
<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well
keep extensibility possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  js.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread
on it to discuss about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  stack we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion
;) I'd prefer progressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  enhancement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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>>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
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