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From Jean-Baptiste Onofré ...@nanthrax.net>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Date Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:46:32 GMT
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Regards
JB

On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
> Any objections?
>
> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english
>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan stands
>> for. But I like its sound.
>>
>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is used
>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
>>
>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
>>
>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
>> monitoring.
>> There is a project management software called marlin:
>> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
>>
>> I believe we currently have:
>>
>> Apache Leitstand
>> Apache Nechtan
>> Apache Merlin
>> Apache Sirona
>> Apache Heimdall
>> Apache Dagr
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>
>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due to
>>> the
>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not good
>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
>>>> status.apache.org
>>>>
>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>>>>
>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, who
>>>> is
>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he was
>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>>>>
>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall was
>>>> named as the "father of all humans".
>>>>
>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of our
>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>>>>
>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
>>>> happens ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old myths
>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through heaven.
>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I imagine
>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
>>>>>> Buildr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided, we'd
>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
>>>>> infrastructure.
>>>>>
>>>>> With regards,
>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <olamy@apache.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what about Baldr?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the
name for
>>>>>>> TLP?
>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> officially.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments
>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - CoMon
>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Leitstand
>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something
were you
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring
would be
>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things
well
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Thor
>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people
use that
>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check
this more in
>>>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch
from a
>>>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun
and closer to
>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb@nanthrax.net>
a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache
Leitstand"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also
a nice name when
>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works
if the GUI is an
>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I
understood correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy
<olamy@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to
find an other name for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note,
It's a popular
>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition
looks to be rude for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> :-).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau"
<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well
keep extensibility possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on
it to discuss about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion
;) I'd prefer progressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
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