Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51B7110388 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 02:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 83445 invoked by uid 500); 25 Sep 2013 02:06:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 83284 invoked by uid 500); 25 Sep 2013 02:06:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 83275 invoked by uid 99); 25 Sep 2013 02:06:43 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 02:06:43 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of dulithaz@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.179 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.223.179] (HELO mail-ie0-f179.google.com) (209.85.223.179) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 02:06:39 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f179.google.com with SMTP id e14so10235433iej.10 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:06:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=660q2mww1fvVeSo/E4f+x0fSYCJAZUhvnlFHls0Qhx0=; b=lEDuv25WJq5EseAxXTz7iCRF4RY2KzXGjLVZpEOhq4Fky3vOqXHGl59GHUAo1LoUvo z9e+W208acFdlMa0ljEo9ynY95eBolr/Nh0J7c628fBLsCitwi6gNfWsMp+8oOBBh9Ew ka1LjkCMfJAMVROO+CsgGuJ8RRyz1jhT+ROJP+Z3QH11VfAYk4kS8bXpxB40fa2AHoOi 1pd0i+rwCxi00PC4mNCbXDGZ+/rSMr9a9zPH5SwmRnxbqa1jA54NFsuGkZn1GgC1jayR sJSss4zsmr25F6o5luBFlkYzbC625URYh0cTpIIvCZh73bELtaTzfzqzqavLc/6YafVs Y3Ew== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.12.80 with SMTP id x16mr12884141icx.56.1380074778513; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.228.141 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:06:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20130924193430.GA7122@devsys.jaguNET.com> <20130924201444.GA8250@devsys.jaguNET.com> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:36:18 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator From: Dulitha Wijewantha To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301cc6b8efd9e504e72bb221 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --20cf301cc6b8efd9e504e72bb221 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +1 for the Dave Fisher's example. I believe most of the people have misunderstood our intentions. We were offering to help the project to grow and graduate faster. I am withdrawing my committer request as our CEO asked too. But honestly speaking - if you guys are *scared* of the *community* and what the *community* is - I don't believe you shouldn't mention the below words in the proposal - *Although we are aware of the strength of the Apache brand, we are primarily * *interested in the transforming power of the Apache Way to help guide* *Usergrid towards a more diversified and meritocratic community* In my humble opinion - the above line should not be a part of the proposal since the Apache way has always been to gather a community around the proposal who have shown interest towards the idea. Cheers On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Sep 24, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Alex Karasulu > wrote: > >> ...So fill the bus with anybody who volunteers? That does not sound > >> meritocratic.... > > > > It's been like that for a while in the Incubator, people who sign up > > as initial committers for a podling usually don't have to demonstrate > > any merit. > > > > When the time comes to graduate the podling, it's perfectly fine to > > ask it to prune its list of committers and PMC members in order to > > keep only people who have demonstrated their committment during > > incubation. > > When OpenOffice.org was brought to the Incubator there was open > enrollment. There were over 70 Initial Committers. I had no experience with > OpenOffice. I did have an understanding of the ASF. I could help and I did. > It was tough to have such a large list many were OpenOffice.org people who > never really adapted to the ASF. We had all these people on the PPMC. When > graduation time came we managed to reduce the PMC to 25. We left the > Initial Committers connected. It hasn't really been a problem. > > My point is that without the Initial Committer free for all I think that > AOO would not be as successful as now. > > Regards, > Dave > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > -- *Dulitha R. Wijewantha** Software Engineer* Tel: 94112793140 | Mobile: 94112793140 dulithaz@gmail.com | http://dulithawijewantha.com --20cf301cc6b8efd9e504e72bb221--