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From Shreepadma Venugopalan <shreepa...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] : Release Apache Sentry 1.2.0 incubating (rc0)
Date Mon, 23 Sep 2013 22:30:00 GMT
Hi Christain,

Name search JIRA for Sentry has been resolved. Are you OK with changing
your vote?

Cheers,
Shreepadma


On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Christian Grobmeier
<grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> Shreepadma Venugopalan schrieb:
> > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> > <grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> Shreepadma Venugopalan schrieb:
> >>> Per this document: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html,
> >> its
> >>> required to start the name search process before we release any
> packages.
> >>> It doesn't mention the name has to be cleared before a release.
> >> OK, maybe it's no phrased well. But surely you understand why the name
> >> must be cleared before any package is released?
> >>
> >
> > Well, the way the rule reads today is the search process has to start
> > before a release can happen. If the name has to be cleared before a
> > release, it needs to be explicitly stated that way.
>
> On the end of the document one can read:
>
> "The V.P. Branding will finally approve your request.
>
> Important: you must wait until your trademark has been approved. There
> is no lazy consensus.
>
> Once the name is approved, you can resolve the JIRA issue and work with
> your new trademark. Incubator Podlings: please don't forget to update
> your Incubator status page.
> "
>
> It says, you can only work with your trademark when VP has approved the
> mark. For me this includes a release.
>
> You maybe can guess that it can cause trouble when you work with a brand
> with has not checked. Only recently we had to rename a subproject of
> project because the brand was not checked accordingly.
>
> We can either discuss about grammar or spelling issues, which this
> document surely has (they are mostly my fault). Or we can simply try to
> understand what problems it solves and act like that.
>
> For me trademarks clearance are as important as a clean IP. If I were
> you, I would keep this vote running, but make the outcome pending to the
> response.
>
> Now, as Jira is available to me again I can see there a couple of
> (software) projects using the name Sentry already. Like for example:
> getsentry.com
>
> Given the high number of other which use the name (346 search results on
> github) I have concerns we will run into a trademark conflict here and
> insist you wait until trademarks@ has approved your mark.
>
> + cc Trademarks
>
> Cheers
> Christain
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >>> We have already started a name search JIRA for Apache Sentry. Here's
> the
> >>> name search JIRA for Apache Sentry:
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-38
> >> OK, then lets wait until this has been closed.
> >>
> >>> The project status page
> >>> (http://incubator.apache.org/**projects/sentry.html<
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/sentry.html>)
> >>> has
> >>> also been updated to reflect it.
> >> I can't see a note. Maybe its not yet published?
> >>
> >>> I think the voting can continue on this RC.
> >> I disagree. First clear the name, then release.
> >>
> >> Anyway I will propose a change on the process document to make the
> >> intention more clear.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers.
> > Shreepadma
> >
> >
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> Shreepadma
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Christian Grobmeier <
> >> grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>> -1 (binding).
> >>>>
> >>>> As per this document:
> >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/**projects/sentry.html<
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/sentry.html>
> >>>> the trademark process has not been resolved.
> >>>>
> >>>> It is required to clear the name before a product is published:
> >>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<
> >> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 22 Sep 2013, at 7:02, Shreepadma Venugopalan wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  This is the first incubator release of Apache Sentry, version
> >>>>> 1.2.0-incubating.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It fixes the following issues: http://s.apache.org/VlU
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Source files : http://people.apache.org/~**shreepadma/sentry-1.2.0/<
> >> http://people.apache.org/~shreepadma/sentry-1.2.0/>
> >>>>> Tag to be voted on (rc0):
> >>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/**repos/asf/incubator-sentry/**
> >>>>> repo?p=incubator-sentry.git;a=**log;h=refs/tags/release-1.2.0-**rc0<
> >>
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-sentry/repo?p=incubator-sentry.git;a=log;h=refs/tags/release-1.2.0-rc0
> >>>>> Sentry's KEYS containing the PGP key we used to sign the release:
> >>>>> https://people.apache.org/**keys/group/sentry.asc<
> >> https://people.apache.org/keys/group/sentry.asc>
> >>>>> Note that this is a source only release and we are voting on the
> source
> >>>>> (tag).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A vote on releasing this package has already passed in Apache Sentry
> >>>>> PPMC[1] including  +1 votes from our IPMC mentors (Patrick Hunt
and
> >> Arvind
> >>>>> Prabhakar).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Vote will be open for 72 hours.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [ ] +1 approve
> >>>>> [ ] +0 no opinion
> >>>>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Shreepadma
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] -
> >>>>> http://markmail.org/search/?q=**sentry%20vote%20release#query:**
> >>>>>
> sentry%20vote%20release+page:**1+mid:sqrwevgsxakqatqk+state:**results<
> >>
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=sentry%20vote%20release#query:sentry%20vote%20release+page:1+mid:sqrwevgsxakqatqk+state:results
> >>
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