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From Andy Van Den Heuvel <andy.vandenheu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Castafiore framework proposal to incubator
Date Wed, 04 Sep 2013 07:42:50 GMT
I think Kureem already knows the incubation process.
He is looking for a java champion. Since he already has a first draft of
his proposal, I asked him to copy it
so people interessed could have an idea what the project is about.

Sorry if my communication caused any inconvenience


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:50 AM, David Crossley <crossley@apache.org> wrote:

> Kureem Rossaye wrote:
> >  Hello community,
> >
> > please find below a proposal I wish to submit to the ASF. I am new here
> and
> > was told that I could paste the proposal here. So here we are.
>
> That was misleading to simply say that. There is quite a process
> which will all be beneficial.
>
> > Awaiting reply, recommendation and feedback and will be pleased to answer
> > any questions.
>
> Please review the Incubator website. There are instructions
> about the process for Proposals.
> http://incubator.apache.org/
> In the top-left see the link to the "Proposal Guide".
>
> -David
>
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Kureem Rossaye
> > Abstract
> >
> > Castafiore framework is a web frameworks, fully component oriented, ajax
> > based, one page appplication. Although the framework can be viewed as a
> > classical component oriented web framework like GWT, it has been designed
> > and implemented with a particular goal in mind. It is to be able to make
> > existing javascript libraries "java-able". Meaning that the framework
> > allows to easily take a javascript library like e.g jquery ui and use the
> > components and features via java. The integration of the javascript
> > libraries need to be easy and natural.
> >
> > Actually companies like ext js and smartgwt have made their components
> > "java-able" using GWT. I wish to provide an alternative to gwt that is
> much
> > easier, fast, lightweight, and much more productive.
> > Proposal
> >
> > Castafiore framework has been designed and implemented with the following
> > goals in mind
> >
> >    1.
> >
> >    Fully object oriented
> >    2.
> >
> >    Simple API that is very close to html itself
> >    We wanted an API that is closer to html markup and javascripts event
> >    model. I believe that this would help web developers easily visualize
> the
> >    rendering when reading source code.
> >    3.
> >
> >    Write a full application with only java
> >    4.
> >
> >    No need for compiler to convert to javascript like gwt.Javascript is
> >    rendered at runtime.
> >    5.
> >
> >    The same API can be used to make an software that is server centric
> and
> >    or client centric. Meaning that the user can make part of his
> application
> >    server centric and part of his application client centric. He can of
> course
> >    choose to make the whole application client centric or server centric
> >    depending on the requirement. All of this using the same API.
> >    6.
> >
> >    Low memory footprint
> >    7.
> >
> >    Easy packaging of application. Everything can be packaged in a single
> >    jar. This includes images, css or javascript as well
> >    8.
> >
> >    Same API used to create custom components. No need to external set of
> >    API or specific programming technique to create custom components.
> Creating
> >    a custom components should be done only the same way as writing an
> >    application.
> >    9.
> >
> >    No need for javascript to create custom components.
> >    10.
> >
> >    Although there is no need for javascript to create an application, it
> >    should be easy to integrate external javascript libraries and use
> them in
> >    java codes itself. This should be done is a natural way just like we
> would
> >    do in an HTML page. This should be like this so that javascript
> library
> >    authors with some java skills find it natural and easy to provide a
> >    castafiore component together with the library. e.g. The author of
> flexgrid
> >    should should find it easy to create a castafiore component thus
> making his
> >    library usable directly in java.
> >
> >  *Actually, I wanted to create a java web framework for javascript
> > programmers. They should find it easy and fun to integrate and distribute
> > their js libraries as a castafiore component. They will be able to
> > distribute their libraries as a single jar. This is very convenient for
> > java developers to just download the jar, include in classpath, and using
> > the library, components and feature right away in their web application
> in
> > pure java. Furthermore the castafiore framework itself is very
> lightweight
> > with just 2 libraries and 1 web.xml entry. Even if the java developer is
> > not using castafiore in his project, he should find it easy to just drop
> > the 2 libraries + web.xml entry in classpath and start using it right
> away.
> > Very practical.*
> >
> >    1.
> >
> >    Load external resources like css and javascript lazily and efficiently
> >    only when needed.
> >    2.
> >
> >    Loading of external resources can be done eagerly if the API user wish
> >    so.
> >    3.
> >
> >    The framework does not own the whole page. Meaning that an application
> >    created with the framework can be used in an already created page.
> This
> >    allows API developer to use the framework only for very specific
> purposes
> >    like for example a dynamic table, while at the same time using other
> web
> >    framework like struts for the other sections of the application.
> >    4.
> >
> >    Although a whole application can be created using pure java, the
> >    framework should be able to integrate templates.
> >    5.
> >
> >    By default, there should be 100% separation of logic and presentation.
> >    Meaning that the API user should be able to take an html template, and
> >    dynamise it without needing to add any modification in the template.
> >    6.
> >
> >    On the other hand, if an API user is more script centric, he is able
> to
> >    write groovy template, jstl templates or any other template engine.
> >    7.
> >
> >    The API user should be able to easily use any template engine he
> wishes
> >    easily and naturally.
> >    8.
> >
> >    Event model is in 3 phase. Client-> server->back to client. API user
> >    should be able to write events in java that starts executing on the
> >    browser, then goes on the server if he wishes, then continue
> executing on
> >    the browser. e.g. We should be able to add an event on a button that
> starts
> >    by executing some javascript codes, then take some parameters and
> execute
> >    codes on the server, then continue back with some parameter from the
> server
> >    to execute some more javascript codes on the client. This technique
> if used
> >    skillfully helps to create very smooth application that constantly
> >    communicates with the server without any flicker
> >    9.
> >
> >    Support for websocket when the browser supports it.
> >    10.
> >
> >    Support for HTML5
> >    11.
> >
> >    Same API to write SVG applications.
> >    12.
> >
> >    Same API to write html5 canva application.
> >    13.
> >
> >    Support for browser back button
> >    14.
> >
> >    Crawlable by google crawler
> >    15.
> >
> >    Ultimately, the framework will come with a very rich set of re-usable
> >    components
> >    16.
> >
> >    Handle browser quirks
> >    17.
> >
> >    Built in validation
> >
> > Background
> >
> > The initial development of castafiore framework started back 3years ago
> by
> > Kureem Rossaye. Later it was mature enough to be used in production. A
> > whole web based platform was created. It consists of applications like
> > Inventory system, CMS, DMS, account system, organization management
> system
> > and also an advanced WYSIWYG online application builder. Many websites
> > ranging from simple catalog website to advanced e-commerce website were
> > also created using the framework.
> >
> > Now I wish to donate this framework to the ASF in the hope to build a
> > community and see it strive
> > Rationale
> >
> > While there exists many web frameworks, there are very few that address
> all
> > the requirements at the same time. There is a need for a web applications
> > that at the same time can free user from javascript, html and css and at
> > the same time easily integrate them when needed. There is also the need
> for
> > a web framework that at the same time can be server centric and client
> > centric. For example, the front-end of a web site should be made client
> > centric and the back end server centric. While the whole application can
> be
> > written in java, the web framework allows to create a whole application
> > using traditional methods like html css javascript and page oriented
> > framework like struts or spring mvc and at the same time implement only
> > very specific parts using the framework.
> >
> > Today many javascript library providers and making their libraries
> > “java-able”. e.g. SmartGWT or extjs
> >
> > They are using GWT for this purpose. Writing custom components with GWT
> can
> > be extremely complex, error prone, difficult to debug and stabilize. Not
> > mentioning the compilation nightmare. And GWT is exclusively client
> > centric. Connection with the server is done exclusively via web services.
> > On the other hand, castafiore framework helps to make javascript
> libraries
> > “java-able” very easily. It is easy to debug and stabilize components
> since
> > there is no such thing as compiler to generate javascript.
> >
> > The framework is built upon jquery. Indeed jquery is an excellent
> > javascript library. The framework basically acts as a thin layer over
> > jquery. The result is a very simple and intuitive api which helps to
> write
> > highly dynamic applications with lesser code. Just like jquery.
> >
> > The 3 phase event model helps to bring the server very close to the
> > browser. Meaning that with the same API, it is easy to interact with the
> > browser and interact with the server. This helps to create very smooth
> > running applications and at the same time interacting with the server and
> > progressively render new components.
> >
> > Thanks to the framework we will be able to harness the new HTML 5 api
> like
> > websocket, workers, storage system, canvas and others using pure java.
> This
> > is pretty exciting.
> >
> > And hopefully, thanks to the ease at which we can integrate js libraries
> as
> > a castafiore components, we will be able to use already mature js
> libraries
> > in our java codes and interact with the server easily
> > Current Status
> >
> > The rendering engine of the framework is completed and is being used in
> > production. A large set of components are also being used. The javadocs
> and
> > documentations are 90% completed. However there are many components that
> > need to be stabilized and of course, there is the need to create more
> > interesting, useful and sexy components for the pleasure of every
> > programmer.
> >
> > We need to create a good set of demo and sample codes
> >
> > There is also a need to create a website where contributors can publish
> > their custom components together with their license and demo
> >
> > I intend to donate the WYSIWYG application builder to the ASF and host it
> > online. This will be used as a sandbox or even can be used to create
> custom
> > components and publish them online itself, without the need to download
> or
> > install anything. I believe that this will help javascript library
> authors
> > to make their libraries “java-able”. To attain this objective, we need to
> > stabilize and increase security level on the application.
> >  Meritocracy
> >
> > By submitting this incubator proposal, we’re expressing our intent to
> build
> > a diverse developer community around Castafiore that will conduct itself
> > according to The Apache Way and use meritocratic means of accepting
> > contributions.
> > Community
> >
> > Castafiore is actively being developed and maintained within Archnet Ltd
> by
> > myself. By open sourcing it, I hope to attract contributors and build a
> > vibrant community around the project. I will do my best to provide all
> > necessary documentation and helps as swiftly as possible to help anybody
> > interested in contributing on the project.
> > Core Developers
> >
> > Castafiore is currently being developed by only Kureem Rossaye
> > Alignment
> >
> > The ASF is a natural choice to host the Castafiore project, given the
> goal
> > of open sourcing the project and fostering a community to grow and
> support
> > the software.
> >
> > Castafiore is a web framework tested and developed on apache-tomcat and
> > websocket features uses implementation provided by tomcat7
> > Known Risks Orphaned Products
> >
> > There is currently one single developer for this project. However, this
> is
> > the main reason why I want to host this project to ASF in order to
> create a
> > community in order make the project less dependent on only myself. I also
> > express my intention to provide all necessary help and documentation to
> > help those interested to get started with the project.
> >
> > Every aspect of the framework will be heavily documented to give clear
> > understanding of the rendering engine in order to help anybody modify,
> > enhance it.
> >
> > Furthermore, the framework is being used in production in my company
> > Archnet ltd and has been deployed in several companies in Mauritius.
> > Inexperience with Open Source
> >
> > Indeed, I have low level of experience in open source and has never
> > contributed in any opensource, although I have always wanted to do so.
> > However, by working with our mentor and the Apache community I believe I
> > will be able to conduct myself in accordance with the Apache Incubator
> > guidelines.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Homogenous Developers
> >
> > Actually there is only myself who is developing this project. This is
> > actually one of the reasons why I want to submit this proposal. In order
> to
> > be able to attract developers from various countries and companies. As I
> > have already mentioned, I will be dedicated to provide everything
> required
> > to help get started with contributing on this project.
> > Reliance on Salaried Developers
> >
> > I am the sole developer of this project. I am the director of my company,
> > Archnet ltd. So there is no reliance on salaried developers for this
> > project.
> >  Relationships with Other Apache Products
> >
> > The project is a web frameworks that has been developed and tested on
> > apache tomcat. Furthermore, the websocket feature actually uses
> exclusively
> > the implementation provided by apache 7
> >
> >
> >
> >  An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
> >
> > While we respect the reputation of the Apache brand and have no doubts
> that
> > it will attract contributors and users, our interest is primarily to give
> > Castafiore a solid home as an open source project following an
> established
> > development model. We have also given reasons in the Rationale and
> > Alignment sections.
> > Documentation
> >
> > Project documentation exists and will be update online soon
> > Initial Source
> >
> > https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework
> >  Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan
> >
> > All the codes are available online on github.
> > https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework/tree/elie/ui
> >
> >
> > Since I am actually the only developer on this project, it is very easy
> for
> > me to change the license to whatever license that best suits the ASF.
> >
> >
> >
> >  External Dependencies
> >
> > Castafiore depends on spring framework and commons-fileupload. They are
> all
> > Apache compatible.
> > Cryptography
> >
> > Not applicable.
> > Required Resources Mailing Lists
> >
> >    -
> >
> >    castafiore-private for private PMC discussions
> >    -
> >
> >    castafiore-dev
> >    -
> >
> >    castafiore-commits
> >    -
> >
> >    castafiore-user
> >    -
> >
> >    castafiore-issues
> >
> > Subversion Directory
> >
> > We prefer to use Git as our source control system: git://
> > git.apache.org/castafiore
> > Issue Tracking
> >
> > JIRA Castafiore
> > Initial Committers
> >
> >    -
> >
> >    Kureem Rossaye (kureem at gmail dot com)
> >
> > Affiliations
> >
> > Archnetltd
> > Interested Parties
> >
> >    -
> >
> >
> > Sponsors Champion Nominated Mentors
> >
> >    -
> >
> >
> > Sponsoring Entity
> >
> > Incubator PMC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 30 August 2013 11:55, Kureem Rossaye <kureem@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >
> > > On 30 August 2013 10:26, Andy Van Den Heuvel <
> andy.vandenheuvel@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
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> >
> > >>
> > >> Kureem,
> > >>
> > >> I think it's best to copy your proposal here, so people can see what
> you
> > >> are exactly trying to solve.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Kureem Rossaye <kureem@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> > I am Kureem Rossaye. I have create a web framework which is already
> > >> being
> > >> > used in production. Now I would like to give the framework
> opensource
> > >> and
> > >> > of course the most natural place to start is Apache. I have already
> > >> written
> > >> > a proposal to submit to the incubation. However, I have the
> following
> > >> > questions.
> > >> > 1. If I am not mistaken I need to hire a champion. Could you please
> > >> help me
> > >> > how to do this
> > >> > 2. How I submit the proposal?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks in advance
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Kureem Rossaye
> > >> > Managing Director
> > >> >
> > >> > ArchNet ltd
> > >> > R. Tagore Avenue, Mesnil
> > >> > Mauritius
> > >> > Mobile :+230 7159028 / Tel :+230 6867326
> > >> > Skype : arkureem
> > >> > http://www.archnetltd.com
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kureem Rossaye
> > > Managing Director
> > >
> > > ArchNet ltd
> > > R. Tagore Avenue, Mesnil
> > > Mauritius
> > > Mobile :+230 7159028 / Tel :+230 6867326
> > > Skype : arkureem
> > > http://www.archnetltd.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kureem Rossaye
> > Managing Director
> >
> > ArchNet ltd
> > R. Tagore Avenue, Mesnil
> > Mauritius
> > Mobile :+230 7159028 / Tel :+230 6867326
> > Skype : arkureem
> > http://www.archnetltd.com
>
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