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From ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Followup to VXQuery July 2013 report
Date Thu, 05 Sep 2013 08:46:52 GMT
Thanks for doing that so promptly Till.

   ...ant


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Till Westmann <till@westmann.org> wrote:

> Just for the record: The website is updated (from the branch that will
> hopefully be released soon).
>
> Till
>
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:11 AM, Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:42 PM, David Crossley <crossley@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> ant elder wrote:
> >>> Hi Marvin, I had a look, that README being pointed to is just build
> >>> instructions on how to build the svn trunk isn't it, so not to some
> >>> released artifacts. Thats allowed isn't it, i'm pretty sure other
> projects
> >>> and podlings have done something similar anyway. Is it that the website
> >>> describes it as user installation instructions rather than developer
> build
> >>> instructions thats the issue?
> >>>
> >>>   ...ant
> >>
> >> I reckon so. To clearly refer developers to developer resources
> >> is fine, but users no. They need to be referred to user instructions.
> >
> > In VXQuery's case, there's nothing to refer users to because in four
> years,
> > VXQuery has never made an incubating release.
> >
> > If developer instructions for accessing version control are added to the
> > website in accordance with ASF guidelines, of course that's fine -- so
> > long as all "user installation" instructions are removed.
> >
> > Here's more background from the legal-discuss list regarding the current
> policy,
> > this time from a different Board member, Doug Cutting:
> >
> >    http://markmail.org/message/pelvob23vrzuzws5
> >
> >    Each PMC should attempt to ensure that every commit is in accord with
> >    Apache's intellectual property policies. Releases are a double-check
> of
> >    this. We hope that source code repositories are not legally considered
> >    publications, but we don't know that courts will in fact always treat
> them
> >    that way, so it's best to guard against that too. Note that the extra
> >    scrutiny around releases both serves to double-check (belt and
> suspenders)
> >    as well as to provide evidence that we do not consider the source code
> >    repository as a publication. But again, we cannot depend on others to
> >    agree with that, and must guard against other interpretations as best
> we
> >    can.
> >
> > If VXQuery finds it uncomfortable not to have anything they can show
> users,
> > they can solve that by making a release.
> >
> > Marvin Humphrey
> >
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