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From Kureem Rossaye <kur...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Castafiore framework proposal to incubator
Date Thu, 05 Sep 2013 14:00:34 GMT
Thank you.

hope this works out.
If there is anything I can do, please ask.

Kureem


On 5 September 2013 16:55, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:

> Perfect!
>
> I will now ask on the Struts list if there are some people interested
>
> Thanks!
>
> Am 05.09.13 14:42, schrieb Kureem Rossaye:
> > Done!
> > Kureem
> > Am 05.09.13 07:09, schrieb Kureem Rossaye:
> >> Thank you very much,
> >> I have not included the proposal to the Incubator wiki yet.
> >> How can I do that?
> > Create an account here:
> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/
> >
> > Then mail your username to this list, askinf for access. You'll be
> > granted then.
> >
> > Then you can add your proposal here:
> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ProjectProposals
> >
> > I assume you know this link already:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html
> >
> > Please try to make the proposal look similar to the others on the wiki.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> >
> > On 5 September 2013 12:47, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Am 05.09.13 07:09, schrieb Kureem Rossaye:
> >>> Thank you very much,
> >>> I have not included the proposal to the Incubator wiki yet.
> >>> How can I do that?
> >> Create an account here:
> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/
> >>
> >> Then mail your username to this list, askinf for access. You'll be
> >> granted then.
> >>
> >> Then you can add your proposal here:
> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ProjectProposals
> >>
> >> I assume you know this link already:
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html
> >>
> >> Please try to make the proposal look similar to the others on the wiki.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> >> Christian
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Kureem
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5 September 2013 00:09, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> Nice!
> >>>>
> >>>> Have you included your proposal to the Incubator wiki?
> >>>> I would like to forward it to the Struts team, some might be
> interested.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no time to actually code, but I might help with incubation
> >>>> (mentoring or championing). Before deciding on that, I would like to
> >>>> hear if there is interest of others here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 04.09.13 15:04, schrieb Kureem Rossaye:
> >>>>> "*once could use Castafiore
> >>>>> in conjunction with Struts. In other terms, Castafiore could be used
> as
> >>>>> a Struts plugin which then calls Struts Actions and replaces Tiles,
> JSP
> >>>>> whatever. Is that correct?*"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Correct!
> >>>>> Actually I myself did not get the idea that it could be used like
> that.
> >>>> Yes
> >>>>> it can be used like that.
> >>>>> Actually, a castafiore application (which can be a simple table) can
> be
> >>>>> included on a page using a simple javascript or a jsp tag. So why
> not a
> >>>>> struts plugin.
> >>>>> Actually I have tried it as an echo2 framework component. It works
> just
> >>>>> nice.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for your interest
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ragards,
> >>>>> Kureem
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 4 September 2013 15:32, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Kureem,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> this sounds nice. As far as I understood it, once could use
> Castafiore
> >>>>>> in conjunction with Struts. In other terms, Castafiore could be used
> >> as
> >>>>>> a Struts plugin which then calls Struts Actions and replaces Tiles,
> >> JSP
> >>>>>> whatever. Is that correct?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Am 04.09.13 10:01, schrieb Kureem Rossaye:
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>> Indeed, I have read the incubation proposal guide. The only thing I
> >>>> could
> >>>>>>> not figure out is how to recruit a champion.
> >>>>>>> However, after re-reading the guide, I missed something. I should
> >> have
> >>>>>>> prefixed the subject of the mail with [PROPOSAL]. So I am resending
> >> the
> >>>>>>> proposal with the proper subject.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >> **********************************************************************
> >>>>>>> PROPOSAL
> >>>>>>> Abstract
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Castafiore framework is a web frameworks, fully component oriented,
> >>>> ajax
> >>>>>>> based, one page appplication. Although the framework can be viewed
> >> as a
> >>>>>>> classical component oriented web framework like GWT, it has been
> >>>> designed
> >>>>>>> and implemented with a particular goal in mind. It is to be able to
> >>>> make
> >>>>>>> existing javascript libraries "java-able". Meaning that the
> framework
> >>>>>>> allows to easily take a javascript library like e.g jquery ui and
> use
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> components and features via java. The integration of the javascript
> >>>>>>> libraries need to be easy and natural.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Actually companies like ext js and smartgwt have made their
> >> components
> >>>>>>> "java-able" using GWT. I wish to provide an alternative to gwt that
> >> is
> >>>>>> much
> >>>>>>> easier, fast, lightweight, and much more productive.
> >>>>>>> Proposal
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Castafiore framework has been designed and implemented with the
> >>>> following
> >>>>>>> goals in mind
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    1.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Fully object oriented
> >>>>>>>    2.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Simple API that is very close to html itself
> >>>>>>>    We wanted an API that is closer to html markup and javascripts
> >> event
> >>>>>>>    model. I believe that this would help web developers easily
> >>>> visualize
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>    rendering when reading source code.
> >>>>>>>    3.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Write a full application with only java
> >>>>>>>    4.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    No need for compiler to convert to javascript like
> gwt.Javascript
> >> is
> >>>>>>>    rendered at runtime.
> >>>>>>>    5.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    The same API can be used to make an software that is server
> >> centric
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>    or client centric. Meaning that the user can make part of his
> >>>>>> application
> >>>>>>>    server centric and part of his application client centric. He
> can
> >> of
> >>>>>> course
> >>>>>>>    choose to make the whole application client centric or server
> >>>> centric
> >>>>>>>    depending on the requirement. All of this using the same API.
> >>>>>>>    6.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Low memory footprint
> >>>>>>>    7.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Easy packaging of application. Everything can be packaged in a
> >>>> single
> >>>>>>>    jar. This includes images, css or javascript as well
> >>>>>>>    8.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Same API used to create custom components. No need to external
> set
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>>    API or specific programming technique to create custom
> components.
> >>>>>> Creating
> >>>>>>>    a custom components should be done only the same way as writing
> an
> >>>>>>>    application.
> >>>>>>>    9.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    No need for javascript to create custom components.
> >>>>>>>    10.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Although there is no need for javascript to create an
> application,
> >>>> it
> >>>>>>>    should be easy to integrate external javascript libraries and
> use
> >>>>>> them in
> >>>>>>>    java codes itself. This should be done is a natural way just
> like
> >> we
> >>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>    do in an HTML page. This should be like this so that javascript
> >>>>>> library
> >>>>>>>    authors with some java skills find it natural and easy to
> provide
> >> a
> >>>>>>>    castafiore component together with the library. e.g. The author
> of
> >>>>>> flexgrid
> >>>>>>>    should should find it easy to create a castafiore component thus
> >>>>>> making his
> >>>>>>>    library usable directly in java.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  *Actually, I wanted to create a java web framework for javascript
> >>>>>>> programmers. They should find it easy and fun to integrate and
> >>>> distribute
> >>>>>>> their js libraries as a castafiore component. They will be able to
> >>>>>>> distribute their libraries as a single jar. This is very convenient
> >> for
> >>>>>>> java developers to just download the jar, include in classpath, and
> >>>> using
> >>>>>>> the library, components and feature right away in their web
> >> application
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> pure java. Furthermore the castafiore framework itself is very
> >>>>>> lightweight
> >>>>>>> with just 2 libraries and 1 web.xml entry. Even if the java
> developer
> >>>> is
> >>>>>>> not using castafiore in his project, he should find it easy to just
> >>>> drop
> >>>>>>> the 2 libraries + web.xml entry in classpath and start using it
> right
> >>>>>> away.
> >>>>>>> Very practical.*
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    1.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Load external resources like css and javascript lazily and
> >>>> efficiently
> >>>>>>>    only when needed.
> >>>>>>>    2.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Loading of external resources can be done eagerly if the API
> user
> >>>> wish
> >>>>>>>    so.
> >>>>>>>    3.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    The framework does not own the whole page. Meaning that an
> >>>> application
> >>>>>>>    created with the framework can be used in an already created
> page.
> >>>>>> This
> >>>>>>>    allows API developer to use the framework only for very specific
> >>>>>> purposes
> >>>>>>>    like for example a dynamic table, while at the same time using
> >> other
> >>>>>> web
> >>>>>>>    framework like struts for the other sections of the application.
> >>>>>>>    4.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Although a whole application can be created using pure java, the
> >>>>>>>    framework should be able to integrate templates.
> >>>>>>>    5.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    By default, there should be 100% separation of logic and
> >>>> presentation.
> >>>>>>>    Meaning that the API user should be able to take an html
> template,
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>    dynamise it without needing to add any modification in the
> >> template.
> >>>>>>>    6.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    On the other hand, if an API user is more script centric, he is
> >> able
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>    write groovy template, jstl templates or any other template
> >> engine.
> >>>>>>>    7.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    The API user should be able to easily use any template engine he
> >>>>>> wishes
> >>>>>>>    easily and naturally.
> >>>>>>>    8.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Event model is in 3 phase. Client-> server->back to client. API
> >> user
> >>>>>>>    should be able to write events in java that starts executing on
> >> the
> >>>>>>>    browser, then goes on the server if he wishes, then continue
> >>>>>> executing on
> >>>>>>>    the browser. e.g. We should be able to add an event on a button
> >> that
> >>>>>> starts
> >>>>>>>    by executing some javascript codes, then take some parameters
> and
> >>>>>> execute
> >>>>>>>    codes on the server, then continue back with some parameter from
> >> the
> >>>>>> server
> >>>>>>>    to execute some more javascript codes on the client. This
> >> technique
> >>>>>> if used
> >>>>>>>    skillfully helps to create very smooth application that
> constantly
> >>>>>>>    communicates with the server without any flicker
> >>>>>>>    9.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Support for websocket when the browser supports it.
> >>>>>>>    10.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Support for HTML5
> >>>>>>>    11.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Same API to write SVG applications.
> >>>>>>>    12.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Same API to write html5 canva application.
> >>>>>>>    13.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Support for browser back button
> >>>>>>>    14.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Crawlable by google crawler
> >>>>>>>    15.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Ultimately, the framework will come with a very rich set of
> >>>> re-usable
> >>>>>>>    components
> >>>>>>>    16.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Handle browser quirks
> >>>>>>>    17.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Built in validation
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Background
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The initial development of castafiore framework started back 3years
> >> ago
> >>>>>> by
> >>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye. Later it was mature enough to be used in
> production.
> >> A
> >>>>>>> whole web based platform was created. It consists of applications
> >> like
> >>>>>>> Inventory system, CMS, DMS, account system, organization management
> >>>>>> system
> >>>>>>> and also an advanced WYSIWYG online application builder. Many
> >> websites
> >>>>>>> ranging from simple catalog website to advanced e-commerce website
> >> were
> >>>>>>> also created using the framework.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now I wish to donate this framework to the ASF in the hope to
> build a
> >>>>>>> community and see it strive
> >>>>>>> Rationale
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> While there exists many web frameworks, there are very few that
> >> address
> >>>>>> all
> >>>>>>> the requirements at the same time. There is a need for a web
> >>>> applications
> >>>>>>> that at the same time can free user from javascript, html and css
> and
> >>>> at
> >>>>>>> the same time easily integrate them when needed. There is also the
> >> need
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>>> a web framework that at the same time can be server centric and
> >> client
> >>>>>>> centric. For example, the front-end of a web site should be made
> >> client
> >>>>>>> centric and the back end server centric. While the whole
> application
> >>>> can
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>> written in java, the web framework allows to create a whole
> >> application
> >>>>>>> using traditional methods like html css javascript and page
> oriented
> >>>>>>> framework like struts or spring mvc and at the same time implement
> >> only
> >>>>>>> very specific parts using the framework.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Today many javascript library providers and making their libraries
> >>>>>>> “java-able”. e.g. SmartGWT or extjs
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> They are using GWT for this purpose. Writing custom components with
> >> GWT
> >>>>>> can
> >>>>>>> be extremely complex, error prone, difficult to debug and
> stabilize.
> >>>> Not
> >>>>>>> mentioning the compilation nightmare. And GWT is exclusively client
> >>>>>>> centric. Connection with the server is done exclusively via web
> >>>> services.
> >>>>>>> On the other hand, castafiore framework helps to make javascript
> >>>>>> libraries
> >>>>>>> “java-able” very easily. It is easy to debug and stabilize
> components
> >>>>>> since
> >>>>>>> there is no such thing as compiler to generate javascript.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The framework is built upon jquery. Indeed jquery is an excellent
> >>>>>>> javascript library. The framework basically acts as a thin layer
> over
> >>>>>>> jquery. The result is a very simple and intuitive api which helps
> to
> >>>>>> write
> >>>>>>> highly dynamic applications with lesser code. Just like jquery.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The 3 phase event model helps to bring the server very close to the
> >>>>>>> browser. Meaning that with the same API, it is easy to interact
> with
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> browser and interact with the server. This helps to create very
> >> smooth
> >>>>>>> running applications and at the same time interacting with the
> server
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>> progressively render new components.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks to the framework we will be able to harness the new HTML 5
> api
> >>>>>> like
> >>>>>>> websocket, workers, storage system, canvas and others using pure
> >> java.
> >>>>>> This
> >>>>>>> is pretty exciting.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And hopefully, thanks to the ease at which we can integrate js
> >>>> libraries
> >>>>>> as
> >>>>>>> a castafiore components, we will be able to use already mature js
> >>>>>> libraries
> >>>>>>> in our java codes and interact with the server easily
> >>>>>>> Current Status
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The rendering engine of the framework is completed and is being
> used
> >> in
> >>>>>>> production. A large set of components are also being used. The
> >> javadocs
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> documentations are 90% completed. However there are many components
> >>>> that
> >>>>>>> need to be stabilized and of course, there is the need to create
> more
> >>>>>>> interesting, useful and sexy components for the pleasure of every
> >>>>>>> programmer.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We need to create a good set of demo and sample codes
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is also a need to create a website where contributors can
> >> publish
> >>>>>>> their custom components together with their license and demo
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I intend to donate the WYSIWYG application builder to the ASF and
> >> host
> >>>> it
> >>>>>>> online. This will be used as a sandbox or even can be used to
> create
> >>>>>> custom
> >>>>>>> components and publish them online itself, without the need to
> >> download
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>>> install anything. I believe that this will help javascript library
> >>>>>> authors
> >>>>>>> to make their libraries “java-able”. To attain this objective, we
> >> need
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>> stabilize and increase security level on the application.
> >>>>>>>  Meritocracy
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> By submitting this incubator proposal, we’re expressing our intent
> to
> >>>>>> build
> >>>>>>> a diverse developer community around Castafiore that will conduct
> >>>> itself
> >>>>>>> according to The Apache Way and use meritocratic means of accepting
> >>>>>>> contributions.
> >>>>>>> Community
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Castafiore is actively being developed and maintained within
> Archnet
> >>>> Ltd
> >>>>>> by
> >>>>>>> myself. By open sourcing it, I hope to attract contributors and
> >> build a
> >>>>>>> vibrant community around the project. I will do my best to provide
> >> all
> >>>>>>> necessary documentation and helps as swiftly as possible to help
> >>>> anybody
> >>>>>>> interested in contributing on the project.
> >>>>>>> Core Developers
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Castafiore is currently being developed by only Kureem Rossaye
> >>>>>>> Alignment
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The ASF is a natural choice to host the Castafiore project, given
> the
> >>>>>> goal
> >>>>>>> of open sourcing the project and fostering a community to grow and
> >>>>>> support
> >>>>>>> the software.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Castafiore is a web framework tested and developed on apache-tomcat
> >> and
> >>>>>>> websocket features uses implementation provided by tomcat7
> >>>>>>> Known Risks Orphaned Products
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is currently one single developer for this project. However,
> >> this
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> the main reason why I want to host this project to ASF in order to
> >>>>>> create a
> >>>>>>> community in order make the project less dependent on only myself.
> I
> >>>> also
> >>>>>>> express my intention to provide all necessary help and
> documentation
> >> to
> >>>>>>> help those interested to get started with the project.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Every aspect of the framework will be heavily documented to give
> >> clear
> >>>>>>> understanding of the rendering engine in order to help anybody
> >> modify,
> >>>>>>> enhance it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Furthermore, the framework is being used in production in my
> company
> >>>>>>> Archnet ltd and has been deployed in several companies in
> Mauritius.
> >>>>>>> Inexperience with Open Source
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Indeed, I have low level of experience in open source and has never
> >>>>>>> contributed in any opensource, although I have always wanted to do
> >> so.
> >>>>>>> However, by working with our mentor and the Apache community I
> >> believe
> >>>> I
> >>>>>>> will be able to conduct myself in accordance with the Apache
> >> Incubator
> >>>>>>> guidelines.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Homogenous Developers
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Actually there is only myself who is developing this project. This
> is
> >>>>>>> actually one of the reasons why I want to submit this proposal. In
> >>>> order
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> be able to attract developers from various countries and companies.
> >> As
> >>>> I
> >>>>>>> have already mentioned, I will be dedicated to provide everything
> >>>>>> required
> >>>>>>> to help get started with contributing on this project.
> >>>>>>> Reliance on Salaried Developers
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am the sole developer of this project. I am the director of my
> >>>> company,
> >>>>>>> Archnet ltd. So there is no reliance on salaried developers for
> this
> >>>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>  Relationships with Other Apache Products
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The project is a web frameworks that has been developed and tested
> on
> >>>>>>> apache tomcat. Furthermore, the websocket feature actually uses
> >>>>>> exclusively
> >>>>>>> the implementation provided by apache 7
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> While we respect the reputation of the Apache brand and have no
> >> doubts
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>>> it will attract contributors and users, our interest is primarily
> to
> >>>> give
> >>>>>>> Castafiore a solid home as an open source project following an
> >>>>>> established
> >>>>>>> development model. We have also given reasons in the Rationale and
> >>>>>>> Alignment sections.
> >>>>>>> Documentation
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Project documentation exists and will be update online soon
> >>>>>>> Initial Source
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework
> >>>>>>>  Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> All the codes are available online on github.
> >>>>>>> https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework/tree/elie/ui
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Since I am actually the only developer on this project, it is very
> >> easy
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>>> me to change the license to whatever license that best suits the
> ASF.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  External Dependencies
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Castafiore depends on spring framework and commons-fileupload. They
> >> are
> >>>>>> all
> >>>>>>> Apache compatible.
> >>>>>>> Cryptography
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Not applicable.
> >>>>>>> Required Resources Mailing Lists
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    castafiore-private for private PMC discussions
> >>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    castafiore-dev
> >>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    castafiore-commits
> >>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    castafiore-user
> >>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    castafiore-issues
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Subversion Directory
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We prefer to use Git as our source control system: git://
> >>>>>>> git.apache.org/castafiore
> >>>>>>> Issue Tracking
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> JIRA Castafiore
> >>>>>>> Initial Committers
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Kureem Rossaye (kureem at gmail dot com)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Affiliations
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Archnetltd
> >>>>>>> Interested Parties
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sponsors Champion Nominated Mentors
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sponsoring Entity
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Incubator PMC
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>> Kureem
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 4 September 2013 11:42, Andy Van Den Heuvel
> >>>>>>> <andy.vandenheuvel@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >>>>>>>> I think Kureem already knows the incubation process.
> >>>>>>>> He is looking for a java champion. Since he already has a first
> >> draft
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>>> his proposal, I asked him to copy it
> >>>>>>>> so people interessed could have an idea what the project is about.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sorry if my communication caused any inconvenience
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:50 AM, David Crossley <
> crossley@apache.org
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>  Hello community,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> please find below a proposal I wish to submit to the ASF. I am
> new
> >>>>>> here
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> was told that I could paste the proposal here. So here we are.
> >>>>>>>>> That was misleading to simply say that. There is quite a process
> >>>>>>>>> which will all be beneficial.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Awaiting reply, recommendation and feedback and will be pleased
> to
> >>>>>>>> answer
> >>>>>>>>>> any questions.
> >>>>>>>>> Please review the Incubator website. There are instructions
> >>>>>>>>> about the process for Proposals.
> >>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/
> >>>>>>>>> In the top-left see the link to the "Proposal Guide".
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -David
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye
> >>>>>>>>>> Abstract
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore framework is a web frameworks, fully component
> >> oriented,
> >>>>>>>> ajax
> >>>>>>>>>> based, one page appplication. Although the framework can be
> viewed
> >>>> as
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>> classical component oriented web framework like GWT, it has been
> >>>>>>>> designed
> >>>>>>>>>> and implemented with a particular goal in mind. It is to be able
> >> to
> >>>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>>> existing javascript libraries "java-able". Meaning that the
> >>>> framework
> >>>>>>>>>> allows to easily take a javascript library like e.g jquery ui
> and
> >>>> use
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> components and features via java. The integration of the
> >> javascript
> >>>>>>>>>> libraries need to be easy and natural.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Actually companies like ext js and smartgwt have made their
> >>>> components
> >>>>>>>>>> "java-able" using GWT. I wish to provide an alternative to gwt
> >> that
> >>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> much
> >>>>>>>>>> easier, fast, lightweight, and much more productive.
> >>>>>>>>>> Proposal
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore framework has been designed and implemented with the
> >>>>>>>> following
> >>>>>>>>>> goals in mind
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    1.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Fully object oriented
> >>>>>>>>>>    2.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Simple API that is very close to html itself
> >>>>>>>>>>    We wanted an API that is closer to html markup and
> javascripts
> >>>>>> event
> >>>>>>>>>>    model. I believe that this would help web developers easily
> >>>>>>>> visualize
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>    rendering when reading source code.
> >>>>>>>>>>    3.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Write a full application with only java
> >>>>>>>>>>    4.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    No need for compiler to convert to javascript like
> >> gwt.Javascript
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>    rendered at runtime.
> >>>>>>>>>>    5.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    The same API can be used to make an software that is server
> >>>> centric
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>    or client centric. Meaning that the user can make part of his
> >>>>>>>>> application
> >>>>>>>>>>    server centric and part of his application client centric. He
> >> can
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> course
> >>>>>>>>>>    choose to make the whole application client centric or server
> >>>>>>>> centric
> >>>>>>>>>>    depending on the requirement. All of this using the same API.
> >>>>>>>>>>    6.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Low memory footprint
> >>>>>>>>>>    7.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Easy packaging of application. Everything can be packaged in
> a
> >>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>    jar. This includes images, css or javascript as well
> >>>>>>>>>>    8.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Same API used to create custom components. No need to
> external
> >>>> set
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>    API or specific programming technique to create custom
> >>>> components.
> >>>>>>>>> Creating
> >>>>>>>>>>    a custom components should be done only the same way as
> writing
> >>>> an
> >>>>>>>>>>    application.
> >>>>>>>>>>    9.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    No need for javascript to create custom components.
> >>>>>>>>>>    10.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Although there is no need for javascript to create an
> >>>> application,
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>    should be easy to integrate external javascript libraries and
> >> use
> >>>>>>>>> them in
> >>>>>>>>>>    java codes itself. This should be done is a natural way just
> >> like
> >>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>    do in an HTML page. This should be like this so that
> javascript
> >>>>>>>>> library
> >>>>>>>>>>    authors with some java skills find it natural and easy to
> >>>> provide a
> >>>>>>>>>>    castafiore component together with the library. e.g. The
> author
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> flexgrid
> >>>>>>>>>>    should should find it easy to create a castafiore component
> >> thus
> >>>>>>>>> making his
> >>>>>>>>>>    library usable directly in java.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  *Actually, I wanted to create a java web framework for
> javascript
> >>>>>>>>>> programmers. They should find it easy and fun to integrate and
> >>>>>>>> distribute
> >>>>>>>>>> their js libraries as a castafiore component. They will be able
> to
> >>>>>>>>>> distribute their libraries as a single jar. This is very
> >> convenient
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>> java developers to just download the jar, include in classpath,
> >> and
> >>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>> the library, components and feature right away in their web
> >>>>>> application
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> pure java. Furthermore the castafiore framework itself is very
> >>>>>>>>> lightweight
> >>>>>>>>>> with just 2 libraries and 1 web.xml entry. Even if the java
> >>>> developer
> >>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>> not using castafiore in his project, he should find it easy to
> >> just
> >>>>>>>> drop
> >>>>>>>>>> the 2 libraries + web.xml entry in classpath and start using it
> >>>> right
> >>>>>>>>> away.
> >>>>>>>>>> Very practical.*
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    1.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Load external resources like css and javascript lazily and
> >>>>>>>> efficiently
> >>>>>>>>>>    only when needed.
> >>>>>>>>>>    2.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Loading of external resources can be done eagerly if the API
> >> user
> >>>>>>>> wish
> >>>>>>>>>>    so.
> >>>>>>>>>>    3.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    The framework does not own the whole page. Meaning that an
> >>>>>>>> application
> >>>>>>>>>>    created with the framework can be used in an already created
> >>>> page.
> >>>>>>>>> This
> >>>>>>>>>>    allows API developer to use the framework only for very
> >> specific
> >>>>>>>>> purposes
> >>>>>>>>>>    like for example a dynamic table, while at the same time
> using
> >>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>>> web
> >>>>>>>>>>    framework like struts for the other sections of the
> >> application.
> >>>>>>>>>>    4.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Although a whole application can be created using pure java,
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>>>    framework should be able to integrate templates.
> >>>>>>>>>>    5.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    By default, there should be 100% separation of logic and
> >>>>>>>> presentation.
> >>>>>>>>>>    Meaning that the API user should be able to take an html
> >>>> template,
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>    dynamise it without needing to add any modification in the
> >>>>>> template.
> >>>>>>>>>>    6.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    On the other hand, if an API user is more script centric, he
> is
> >>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>    write groovy template, jstl templates or any other template
> >>>> engine.
> >>>>>>>>>>    7.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    The API user should be able to easily use any template engine
> >> he
> >>>>>>>>> wishes
> >>>>>>>>>>    easily and naturally.
> >>>>>>>>>>    8.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Event model is in 3 phase. Client-> server->back to client.
> API
> >>>>>> user
> >>>>>>>>>>    should be able to write events in java that starts executing
> on
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>    browser, then goes on the server if he wishes, then continue
> >>>>>>>>> executing on
> >>>>>>>>>>    the browser. e.g. We should be able to add an event on a
> button
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> starts
> >>>>>>>>>>    by executing some javascript codes, then take some parameters
> >> and
> >>>>>>>>> execute
> >>>>>>>>>>    codes on the server, then continue back with some parameter
> >> from
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> server
> >>>>>>>>>>    to execute some more javascript codes on the client. This
> >>>> technique
> >>>>>>>>> if used
> >>>>>>>>>>    skillfully helps to create very smooth application that
> >>>> constantly
> >>>>>>>>>>    communicates with the server without any flicker
> >>>>>>>>>>    9.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Support for websocket when the browser supports it.
> >>>>>>>>>>    10.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Support for HTML5
> >>>>>>>>>>    11.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Same API to write SVG applications.
> >>>>>>>>>>    12.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Same API to write html5 canva application.
> >>>>>>>>>>    13.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Support for browser back button
> >>>>>>>>>>    14.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Crawlable by google crawler
> >>>>>>>>>>    15.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Ultimately, the framework will come with a very rich set of
> >>>>>>>> re-usable
> >>>>>>>>>>    components
> >>>>>>>>>>    16.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Handle browser quirks
> >>>>>>>>>>    17.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Built in validation
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Background
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The initial development of castafiore framework started back
> >> 3years
> >>>>>> ago
> >>>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye. Later it was mature enough to be used in
> >>>> production. A
> >>>>>>>>>> whole web based platform was created. It consists of
> applications
> >>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>> Inventory system, CMS, DMS, account system, organization
> >> management
> >>>>>>>>> system
> >>>>>>>>>> and also an advanced WYSIWYG online application builder. Many
> >>>> websites
> >>>>>>>>>> ranging from simple catalog website to advanced e-commerce
> website
> >>>>>> were
> >>>>>>>>>> also created using the framework.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Now I wish to donate this framework to the ASF in the hope to
> >> build
> >>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>> community and see it strive
> >>>>>>>>>> Rationale
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> While there exists many web frameworks, there are very few that
> >>>>>> address
> >>>>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>>> the requirements at the same time. There is a need for a web
> >>>>>>>> applications
> >>>>>>>>>> that at the same time can free user from javascript, html and
> css
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>> the same time easily integrate them when needed. There is also
> the
> >>>>>> need
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>> a web framework that at the same time can be server centric and
> >>>> client
> >>>>>>>>>> centric. For example, the front-end of a web site should be made
> >>>>>> client
> >>>>>>>>>> centric and the back end server centric. While the whole
> >> application
> >>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>> written in java, the web framework allows to create a whole
> >>>>>> application
> >>>>>>>>>> using traditional methods like html css javascript and page
> >> oriented
> >>>>>>>>>> framework like struts or spring mvc and at the same time
> implement
> >>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>>> very specific parts using the framework.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Today many javascript library providers and making their
> libraries
> >>>>>>>>>> “java-able”. e.g. SmartGWT or extjs
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> They are using GWT for this purpose. Writing custom components
> >> with
> >>>>>> GWT
> >>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>> be extremely complex, error prone, difficult to debug and
> >> stabilize.
> >>>>>>>> Not
> >>>>>>>>>> mentioning the compilation nightmare. And GWT is exclusively
> >> client
> >>>>>>>>>> centric. Connection with the server is done exclusively via web
> >>>>>>>> services.
> >>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, castafiore framework helps to make javascript
> >>>>>>>>> libraries
> >>>>>>>>>> “java-able” very easily. It is easy to debug and stabilize
> >>>> components
> >>>>>>>>> since
> >>>>>>>>>> there is no such thing as compiler to generate javascript.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The framework is built upon jquery. Indeed jquery is an
> excellent
> >>>>>>>>>> javascript library. The framework basically acts as a thin layer
> >>>> over
> >>>>>>>>>> jquery. The result is a very simple and intuitive api which
> helps
> >> to
> >>>>>>>>> write
> >>>>>>>>>> highly dynamic applications with lesser code. Just like jquery.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The 3 phase event model helps to bring the server very close to
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>>> browser. Meaning that with the same API, it is easy to interact
> >> with
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> browser and interact with the server. This helps to create very
> >>>> smooth
> >>>>>>>>>> running applications and at the same time interacting with the
> >>>> server
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> progressively render new components.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks to the framework we will be able to harness the new HTML
> 5
> >>>> api
> >>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>> websocket, workers, storage system, canvas and others using pure
> >>>> java.
> >>>>>>>>> This
> >>>>>>>>>> is pretty exciting.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> And hopefully, thanks to the ease at which we can integrate js
> >>>>>>>> libraries
> >>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>> a castafiore components, we will be able to use already mature
> js
> >>>>>>>>> libraries
> >>>>>>>>>> in our java codes and interact with the server easily
> >>>>>>>>>> Current Status
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The rendering engine of the framework is completed and is being
> >> used
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> production. A large set of components are also being used. The
> >>>>>> javadocs
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> documentations are 90% completed. However there are many
> >> components
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>> need to be stabilized and of course, there is the need to create
> >>>> more
> >>>>>>>>>> interesting, useful and sexy components for the pleasure of
> every
> >>>>>>>>>> programmer.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We need to create a good set of demo and sample codes
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> There is also a need to create a website where contributors can
> >>>>>> publish
> >>>>>>>>>> their custom components together with their license and demo
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I intend to donate the WYSIWYG application builder to the ASF
> and
> >>>> host
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>> online. This will be used as a sandbox or even can be used to
> >> create
> >>>>>>>>> custom
> >>>>>>>>>> components and publish them online itself, without the need to
> >>>>>> download
> >>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>> install anything. I believe that this will help javascript
> library
> >>>>>>>>> authors
> >>>>>>>>>> to make their libraries “java-able”. To attain this objective,
> we
> >>>> need
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> stabilize and increase security level on the application.
> >>>>>>>>>>  Meritocracy
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> By submitting this incubator proposal, we’re expressing our
> intent
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>> a diverse developer community around Castafiore that will
> conduct
> >>>>>>>> itself
> >>>>>>>>>> according to The Apache Way and use meritocratic means of
> >> accepting
> >>>>>>>>>> contributions.
> >>>>>>>>>> Community
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore is actively being developed and maintained within
> >> Archnet
> >>>>>>>> Ltd
> >>>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>> myself. By open sourcing it, I hope to attract contributors and
> >>>> build
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>> vibrant community around the project. I will do my best to
> provide
> >>>> all
> >>>>>>>>>> necessary documentation and helps as swiftly as possible to help
> >>>>>>>> anybody
> >>>>>>>>>> interested in contributing on the project.
> >>>>>>>>>> Core Developers
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore is currently being developed by only Kureem Rossaye
> >>>>>>>>>> Alignment
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The ASF is a natural choice to host the Castafiore project,
> given
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> goal
> >>>>>>>>>> of open sourcing the project and fostering a community to grow
> and
> >>>>>>>>> support
> >>>>>>>>>> the software.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore is a web framework tested and developed on
> >> apache-tomcat
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> websocket features uses implementation provided by tomcat7
> >>>>>>>>>> Known Risks Orphaned Products
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> There is currently one single developer for this project.
> However,
> >>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>> the main reason why I want to host this project to ASF in order
> to
> >>>>>>>>> create a
> >>>>>>>>>> community in order make the project less dependent on only
> >> myself. I
> >>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>> express my intention to provide all necessary help and
> >> documentation
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> help those interested to get started with the project.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Every aspect of the framework will be heavily documented to give
> >>>> clear
> >>>>>>>>>> understanding of the rendering engine in order to help anybody
> >>>> modify,
> >>>>>>>>>> enhance it.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Furthermore, the framework is being used in production in my
> >> company
> >>>>>>>>>> Archnet ltd and has been deployed in several companies in
> >> Mauritius.
> >>>>>>>>>> Inexperience with Open Source
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Indeed, I have low level of experience in open source and has
> >> never
> >>>>>>>>>> contributed in any opensource, although I have always wanted to
> do
> >>>> so.
> >>>>>>>>>> However, by working with our mentor and the Apache community I
> >>>> believe
> >>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>> will be able to conduct myself in accordance with the Apache
> >>>> Incubator
> >>>>>>>>>> guidelines.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  Homogenous Developers
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Actually there is only myself who is developing this project.
> This
> >>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>> actually one of the reasons why I want to submit this proposal.
> In
> >>>>>>>> order
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> be able to attract developers from various countries and
> >> companies.
> >>>> As
> >>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>> have already mentioned, I will be dedicated to provide
> everything
> >>>>>>>>> required
> >>>>>>>>>> to help get started with contributing on this project.
> >>>>>>>>>> Reliance on Salaried Developers
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I am the sole developer of this project. I am the director of my
> >>>>>>>> company,
> >>>>>>>>>> Archnet ltd. So there is no reliance on salaried developers for
> >> this
> >>>>>>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>>>>  Relationships with Other Apache Products
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The project is a web frameworks that has been developed and
> tested
> >>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>> apache tomcat. Furthermore, the websocket feature actually uses
> >>>>>>>>> exclusively
> >>>>>>>>>> the implementation provided by apache 7
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> While we respect the reputation of the Apache brand and have no
> >>>> doubts
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>> it will attract contributors and users, our interest is
> primarily
> >> to
> >>>>>>>> give
> >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore a solid home as an open source project following an
> >>>>>>>>> established
> >>>>>>>>>> development model. We have also given reasons in the Rationale
> and
> >>>>>>>>>> Alignment sections.
> >>>>>>>>>> Documentation
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Project documentation exists and will be update online soon
> >>>>>>>>>> Initial Source
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework
> >>>>>>>>>>  Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> All the codes are available online on github.
> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/archnetltd/castafioreframework/tree/elie/ui
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Since I am actually the only developer on this project, it is
> very
> >>>>>> easy
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>> me to change the license to whatever license that best suits the
> >>>> ASF.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  External Dependencies
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Castafiore depends on spring framework and commons-fileupload.
> >> They
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>>> Apache compatible.
> >>>>>>>>>> Cryptography
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Not applicable.
> >>>>>>>>>> Required Resources Mailing Lists
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    castafiore-private for private PMC discussions
> >>>>>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    castafiore-dev
> >>>>>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    castafiore-commits
> >>>>>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    castafiore-user
> >>>>>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    castafiore-issues
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Subversion Directory
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We prefer to use Git as our source control system: git://
> >>>>>>>>>> git.apache.org/castafiore
> >>>>>>>>>> Issue Tracking
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> JIRA Castafiore
> >>>>>>>>>> Initial Committers
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    Kureem Rossaye (kureem at gmail dot com)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Affiliations
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Archnetltd
> >>>>>>>>>> Interested Parties
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Sponsors Champion Nominated Mentors
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    -
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Sponsoring Entity
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Incubator PMC
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 30 August 2013 11:55, Kureem Rossaye <kureem@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 30 August 2013 10:26, Andy Van Den Heuvel <
> >>>>>>>>> andy.vandenheuvel@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >> is
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> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kureem,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's best to copy your proposal here, so people can
> see
> >>>> what
> >>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> are exactly trying to solve.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Kureem Rossaye <
> >> kureem@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am Kureem Rossaye. I have create a web framework which is
> >>>>>>>> already
> >>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> used in production. Now I would like to give the framework
> >>>>>>>>> opensource
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of course the most natural place to start is Apache. I have
> >>>>>>>> already
> >>>>>>>>>>>> written
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a proposal to submit to the incubation. However, I have the
> >>>>>>>>> following
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> questions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If I am not mistaken I need to hire a champion. Could you
> >>>>>>>> please
> >>>>>>>>>>>> help me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> how to do this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. How I submit the proposal?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Managing Director
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ArchNet ltd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> R. Tagore Avenue, Mesnil
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mauritius
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile :+230 7159028 / Tel :+230 6867326
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype : arkureem
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.archnetltd.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye
> >>>>>>>>>>> Managing Director
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ArchNet ltd
> >>>>>>>>>>> R. Tagore Avenue, Mesnil
> >>>>>>>>>>> Mauritius
> >>>>>>>>>>> Mobile :+230 7159028 / Tel :+230 6867326
> >>>>>>>>>>> Skype : arkureem
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.archnetltd.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Kureem Rossaye
> >>>>>>>>>> Managing Director
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ArchNet ltd
> >>>>>>>>>> R. Tagore Avenue, Mesnil
> >>>>>>>>>> Mauritius
> >>>>>>>>>> Mobile :+230 7159028 / Tel :+230 6867326
> >>>>>>>>>> Skype : arkureem
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