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From Alex Karasulu <akaras...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator
Date Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:34:50 GMT
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sanjiva@wso2.com>wrote:

SNIP ...

Time to get past this and get the project going!


If we could have gotten here without the diversion, then the vote would not
have been derailed as it was.


> I will not offer to mentor
> nor will WSO2 commit our folks to it at this point (yes Alex as CEO I will
> decide whether we commit work time to this) but that's fine - there's
> plenty of other mentors and this project can easily get a community going
> without our help.
>
>
WSO2 folks should get involved especially to balance out Apigee. But this
does not happen naturally or correctly in 36 hours. If this podling enters
the Incubator, then all committers should contribute and demonstrate their
commitment to the project ... not to Apigee's CEO or to WSO2's CEO. This is
meritocracy in action and it leads to communities of individuals instead of
companies.

The problem was the unchecked manner, quantity and speed with which your
folks were being added to the committers list The community needs to vet
these guys just as much as anyone else. They should come in and engage this
community and start contributing, and hopefully becoming committers and
PPMC members. This will show the project is on the right track.


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Joseph Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Thanks for clearing that up Jim.  Now who is going to make peace over all
> > the spilled milk here?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:39 AM, Joseph Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> All things
> > >> considered, would it be better if Sanjiva and colleagues
> > >> ASKED to be included in the proposal instead of just adding
> > >> themselves in an ad hoc fashion?
> > >
> > > Which is exactly what they did. They expressed an interest
> > > and were added when they specifically requested, and
> > > the adding was done by myself as Champion since I
> > > deemed the request "sufficient".
> > >
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-- 
Best Regards,
-- Alex

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