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From Rajeev Sampath <rjvra...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] BatchEE to implement JBatch @apache
Date Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:55:15 GMT
Sounds like an interesting project. Looking forward to make some
contributions if time permits.


Thanks
Rajeev


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rmannibucau@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> thanks to the last mail of Matt do you think I can start a VOTE for this
> proposal? If not what is missing?
>
> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>
>
>
> 2013/9/19 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
>
> > hehe right.
> >
> > thks
> >
> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/9/19 Matt Benson <gudnabrsam@gmail.com>
> >
> >> I discussed this with Romain and someone else (can't recall who) before
> he
> >> submitted this proposal.  My knee-jerk response was that a software
> grant
> >> would be required, but then recalled the discussion at [1].  This leaves
> >> the impression that the podling could proceed with merely IBM's good
> will,
> >> which has been established at [2].
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Matt
> >>
> >> [1] http://markmail.org/message/ajmuxmxfdrcurswp
> >> [2] http://markmail.org/message/5mvf5pzyiuakob4w
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:25 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Just wondering, even though the RI is ASL2, do we need to get IP
> >> > clearance to fork?
> >> >
> >> > I think this last came up with BeanShell.
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Matt Benson <gudnabrsam@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > JSR 352 is part of Java EE 7, so BatchEE is IMO warranted.  Plus the
> >> > > rhyming of "Apache BatchEE" is silly and fun.
> >> > >
> >> > > $0.02,
> >> > > Matt
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> >> > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> easybatch is used by others already.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> regards,
> >> > >> gerhard
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 2013/9/19 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Ok guys, if I have 2 others +1 I update the proposal ;) (I
think
> >> you
> >> > are
> >> > >> > right, that's why i proposed it)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> >> > >> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> >> > >> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> >> > >> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> >> > >> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> >> > >> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 2013/9/19 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > +1, to be honest, I prefer EasyBatch as BatchEE sounds
like
> >> related
> >> > to
> >> > >> > > JavaEE which can be confusing for the users.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Regards
> >> > >> > > JB
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > On 09/19/2013 01:31 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >> Discussing with a colleague he proposed me another
name:
> >> EasyBatch.
> >> > >> > >> Personally I like BatchEE but EasyBatch sounds quite
fun even
> if
> >> > maybe
> >> > >> > >> too close to RestEasy ;)
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> wdyt?
> >> > >> > >> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> > >> > >> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> >> > >> > >> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.**com/<
> >> > >> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> >> > >> > >> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/**rmannibucau<
> >> > >> > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>
> >> > >> > >> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> 2013/9/18 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>:
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>> Added you , thks
> >> > >> > >>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> > >> > >>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> >> > >> > >>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.**com/<
> >> > >> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> >> > >> > >>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/**rmannibucau<
> >> > >> > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>
> >> > >> > >>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >> > >> > >>>
> >> > >> > >>>
> >> > >> > >>>
> >> > >> > >>> 2013/9/18 Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org>:
> >> > >> > >>>
> >> > >> > >>>> Sounds interesting.
> >> > >> > >>>> Add me as mentor if needed.
> >> > >> > >>>>
> >> > >> > >>>> Cheers
> >> > >> > >>>> --
> >> > >> > >>>> Olivier
> >> > >> > >>>> On Sep 17, 2013 8:22 PM, "Romain Manni-Bucau"
<
> >> > >> rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> >> > >> > >>>> wrote:
> >> > >> > >>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>  Dear ASF members,
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> I would like to propose the BatchEE
project to the
> Incubator.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> The BatchEE proposal is available at:
> >> > >> > >>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/**incubator/BatchEEProposal<
> >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BatchEEProposal>
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> I welcome your feedbacks and suggestions.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Thanks!
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Here is a copy of the proposal:
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> = BatchEE, JBatch Implementation =
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Abstract ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE will be an ASL-licensed implementation
of the
> JBatch
> >> > >> > >>>>> Specification which is defined as JSR-352
(for version
> 1.0).
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Proposal ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE specification is an effort for
defining a standard
> >> API
> >> > and
> >> > >> > way
> >> > >> > >>>>> to write batches in Java. It is integrated
with JavaEE
> (JTA,
> >> > >> CDI....)
> >> > >> > >>>>> but works out of the box in a standalone
environment.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE Project is responsible for implementing
the runtime
> >> > >> container
> >> > >> > >>>>> contract for the JBatch specification.
Besides the
> >> > implementation,
> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE Project will implement the core
built-in components
> >> that
> >> > >> > >>>>> further simplifies the developer complex
interactions with
> >> other
> >> > >> Java
> >> > >> > >>>>> EE specific enterprise operations. For
example, it will
> >> define
> >> > >> > default
> >> > >> > >>>>> reader/processor/writer for jdbc, jpa,
xml/json/flat
> files...
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Background ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Until today writing batches in java
meant using a
> proprietary
> >> > >> > >>>>> framework and link to JavaEE was quite
limited (or
> missing).
> >> > JBatch
> >> > >> > >>>>> defines an API fixing this issue and
now developpers need a
> >> fix.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Rationale ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Current JBatch specificatin is released,
and only the
> >> reference
> >> > >> > >>>>> implementation is available but not
really intended to be
> >> > >> maintained.
> >> > >> > >>>>> Moreover multiple Apache projects (geronimo,
TomEE, ...)
> will
> >> > need
> >> > >> an
> >> > >> > >>>>> Apache compatible Jbatch implementation
to go ahread and
> >> > implement
> >> > >> > >>>>> JavaEE 7.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Initial Goals ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> The initial goals of the BatchEE Project
are
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>>   * Fully implement the JSR-352 specification.
> >> > >> > >>>>>   * Attracts a community around the
current code base.
> >> > >> > >>>>>   * Active relationship with the other
dependent projects
> to
> >> > >> further
> >> > >> > >>>>> develop some useful batch components.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> == Current Status ==
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Meritocracy ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Initial developer of the project is
familiar with the
> >> > meritocracy
> >> > >> > >>>>> principles of Apache. He knows that
the open source gets
> >> power
> >> > from
> >> > >> > >>>>> its great developers and freedom. He
also developed some
> >> other
> >> > open
> >> > >> > >>>>> source projects. We will follow the
normal meritocracy
> rules
> >> > also
> >> > >> > with
> >> > >> > >>>>> other potential contributors.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Community ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> There is a great community within the
OpenEJB,
> OpenWebBeans,
> >> > >> Geronimo
> >> > >> > >>>>> and TomEE Apache projects. BatchEE project
is very related
> >> with
> >> > >> these
> >> > >> > >>>>> projects and in the some cases, it enhances
these projects.
> >> We
> >> > are
> >> > >> > >>>>> thinking that BatchEE project gets strong
community because
> >> it
> >> > >> > >>>>> complete the needed frameworks of a
java developper and
> >> unifies
> >> > the
> >> > >> > >>>>> using of these projects. It simplifies
the developer effort
> >> for
> >> > >> > >>>>> building complex enterprise applications
batches.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Core Developers ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE project has been developing
by the IBM then forked
> by
> >> > >> Romain
> >> > >> > >>>>> Manni-Bucau as a sole contributor.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Alignment ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> BacthEE project will be a candidate
for use in Geronimo AS
> >> and
> >> > >> TomEE
> >> > >> > >>>>> as a default JBatch implementation.
Other projects could
> >> benefit
> >> > >> from
> >> > >> > >>>>> the BatchEE project as a general purpose
component and
> >> context
> >> > >> > >>>>> management.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE project is closely aligned with
the OpenEJB and
> >> > >> OpenWebBeans
> >> > >> > >>>>> projects perfectly. It depends on these
projects to satisfy
> >> its
> >> > >> > >>>>> requirements (mainly tests).
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> == Known Risks ==
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Orphaned products ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Even if the initial committer of the
project has no plan to
> >> > leave
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> > >>>>> active development, it must necessary
to get other
> committers
> >> > for
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> > >>>>> project. So that it less dependent on
the single developer.
> >> The
> >> > >> > source
> >> > >> > >>>>> code of the project is well documented
and new committers
> >> could
> >> > >> > easily
> >> > >> > >>>>> grasp the details. Initial committer
continues to support
> >> > actively
> >> > >> > >>>>> this project.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Inexperience with Open Source ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Initial developer have worked on open
source project
> before,
> >> > >> > including
> >> > >> > >>>>> OpenEJB/TomEE, OpenWebBeans, XBean...
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Homogeneous Developers ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Altough the initial committer of the
project is single,
> >> > developer
> >> > >> > team
> >> > >> > >>>>> may be increased within the active project
lifecycle from
> the
> >> > >> > >>>>> different locations.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Reliance on Salaried Developers
===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Project currently has no salaried developers.
All the
> >> > commitment is
> >> > >> > >>>>> done by the volunteer developer.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === Relationships with Other Apache
Products ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE will likely be used in the Geronimo
and Apache
> TomEE.
> >> > >> > >>>>> OpenWebBeans could bring added value
for tests and
> >> integration
> >> > with
> >> > >> > >>>>> CDI. OpenEJB will be great to pass EE
tests (JTA is
> mandatory
> >> > and
> >> > >> CDi
> >> > >> > >>>>> a must have).
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> === An Excessive Fascination with the
Apache Brand ===
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE project initial committer is
the strong supporter
> of
> >> the
> >> > >> open
> >> > >> > >>>>> source projects. Initial committer of
the project thinks
> that
> >> > ASF
> >> > >> has
> >> > >> > >>>>> great place that provides wider colloboration
and support
> of
> >> the
> >> > >> open
> >> > >> > >>>>> source project and it respects meritrocracy.
Also, BatchEE
> >> > project
> >> > >> > >>>>> will surely be embraced by the Geronimo,
TomEE, Camel and
> >> other
> >> > >> > Apache
> >> > >> > >>>>> projects. BatchEE project is closely
related with the some
> of
> >> > the
> >> > >> > >>>>> other Apache projects.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> == Documentation ==
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Currently the main documentation of
the project is
> contained
> >> in
> >> > the
> >> > >> > >>>>> README.md in the source repository (see
next part).
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> == Initial Source ==
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> The source for BatchEE project that
is to be imported is
> >> > currently
> >> > >> > >>>>> within the project at
> >> > https://github.com/**rmannibucau/batchee.git
> >> > >> <
> >> > >> > https://github.com/rmannibucau/batchee.git>and
> >> > >> > >>>>> is all ASL2.0 licensed. It is based
on a fork of the JBatch
> >> RI
> >> > >> > >>>>> (developped by IBM) which said it was
ok to fork the RI:
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> http://apache-incubator-**general.996316.n3.nabble.com/**
> >> > >> > >>>>> Re-DISCUSS-jbatch-impl-Apache-**td36529.html<
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> http://apache-incubator-general.996316.n3.nabble.com/Re-DISCUSS-jbatch-impl-Apache-td36529.html
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> == External Dependencies ==
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> All dependencies have Apache compatible
licenses.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> == Required Resources ==
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Mailing lists
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>>   * batchee-dev@incubator.apache.**org<
> >> > >> > batchee-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> >> > >> > >>>>>   * batchee-commits@incubator.**apache.org<
> >> > >> > batchee-commits@incubator.apache.org>
> >> > >> > >>>>>   * batchee-private@incubator.**apache.org<
> >> > >> > batchee-private@incubator.apache.org>
> >> > >> > >>>>>   * batchee-user@incubator.apache.**org<
> >> > >> > batchee-user@incubator.apache.org>
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Git repository
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>>   * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/**repos/asf/batchee.git<
> >> > >> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/batchee.git>
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Issue Tracking
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>>   * https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/BATCHEE<
> >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BATCHEE>
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Other Resources
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>>   * Wiki
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> == Initial Committers ==
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> || '''Name'''           || '''Email'''
> >> > >> >  ||
> >> > >> > >>>>> '''CLA'''        ||
> >> > >> > >>>>> || Romain Manni-Bucau   || rmannibucau
at gmail dot com
> >> > >> > ||
> >> > >> > >>>>> yes              ||
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> == Sponsors ==
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> We kindly request the Apache Incubator
PMC to be the
> sponsor
> >> for
> >> > >> this
> >> > >> > >>>>> project.
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Champion
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>>   * TBD (tbf at apache dot org)
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Nominated Mentors
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>>   * TBD (tbf at apacge dot org)
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> > >> > >>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> >> > >> > >>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.**com/<
> >> > >> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> >> > >> > >>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/**rmannibucau<
> >> > >> > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>
> >> > >> > >>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >> > >> > >>>>>
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