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From Craig L Russell <>
Subject Re: The podling initial committers issue
Date Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:58:50 GMT
Hi Dave,

This topic actually did make it into the incubator guides but it's a bit hard to find it.

<<When a proposal is just a candidate, there are two possible approaches (for those
interested in committership).

The proposal typically contains a list of initial committers. When a podling is bootstrapped,
this list is used by the mentors to set up initial accounts. So, one way to become a committer
for a podling is to be listed on the proposal as an initial committer.

The right way to express interest is by a post to the list with a brief introduction. Piling
onto a proposal (by adding your own name as an initial committer) is impolite. Read this thread.

A podling needs to learn how to recruit new committers from its developers. So, another way
is to show up on the list and start helping with the development. This path will help the
podling more than adding your name to the list of initial committers.>>

So I think there is already consensus on the <bad> practice of piling on. And please
note that I am not suggesting that anything like piling on has recently occurred here!

So, if you would like to propose a patch that puts that information in other, possibly more
easily found, places, go for it.


On Sep 25, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Dave wrote:

> How do we go about changing the Incubator Proposal Guide so that the rules
> around adding new committers to a podling at proposal time? As much fun as
> a good email thread can be, we don't want to have to relive the same ones
> over and over.
> Can we come up with a consensus view and get it into the guide here?
> Here's what I think we should add:
> After a proposal is submitted to the incubator but before a vote is called
> the proposing community may choose to add additional committers who ask to
> be committers or may chose to defer adding new committers until the podling
> is in the Incubator and can use the normal ways of ASF meritocracy,
> nominate new committers, etc.
> Do people agree with that text?
> What's the process for getting a change like this into the guide?
> Thanks,
> Dave

Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
408 276-5638
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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