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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:04:28 -0700
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Subject: Re: Welcome to the Incubator, Samza community!
From: Chris Riccomini <criccomini.aux@gmail.com>
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc: Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com>,
 dev <dev@samza.incubator.apache.org>
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Hey All,

Thanks for the info! Great to be here.

Cheers,
Chris


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com>wrote:

> Good catch Daniel
>
> Samza community, be aware that the incubator is attempting to be more
> responsive to the occasional blocker on a podlings progress. You are the
> first of our podlings to receive this welcome email and as such you are
> also exposed to its "bugs".  In all likelihood this "bug" will not affect
> you in practice.
>
> This discussion about the ombud is going around in circles and we need to
> close it. As an interim step I have edited the wiki to remove reference to
> the non-existent ombud. If the IPMC fails to deal with a podlings issue
> effectively then it is a failure of the IPMC and therefore a board issue.
>
> I've updated the para in the doc to say:
>
> "In certain circumstances, there are specific people charged with
> specific responsibilities. Over time you can expect to learn who they
> are, and where they hang out. Your mentors should be able to guide you
> while you do learn. If, for whatever reason, they are unable or
> unwilling to help you can ask on the incubator general list
> (general@incubartor.apache.org). If the topic is
> too sensitive to discuss in public (eg a potential committer) you may
> contact the incubator PMC at private@incubator.apache.org. In the
> unlikely event that you are still unable to find a resolution then you
> can escalate to the Apache Board via your regular board reports.
> Should the matter be urgent feel free to contact the board via
> board@apache.org at any time. Please note that
> all these channels are concerned with the community and infrastructure
> aspects of your project, they have no interest in implementation issues
> you may face - your on your own with those."
>
> Ross
> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> Senior Technology Evangelist
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>
>
>
>
>
> On 15 August 2013 08:27, Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>
> > Marvin Humphrey wrote on Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 19:02:54 -0700:
> > > *   See <http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WhatToExpect> for a
> practical
> > >     introduction to the Incubator experience.
> >
> > My favourite part of this is how it first warns that "some of the
> > documentation may be out-of-date and if you ask about it you may get
> > a totally different response", and then gives an email address for the
> > ombudsman (and then warns that there's in fact no ombudsman)...
> >
> > Irony aside, that's at best a bug in WhatToExpect.  (and at worst the
> > canary of that page growing all the same problems that existing
> > documentations have)
> >
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