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From Marvin Humphrey <mar...@rectangular.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman
Date Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:36:21 GMT
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
> On 8/5/13 8:05 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <marvin@rectangular.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:

>>> Agreed, but it would be more welcoming and more of a "committee" if
>>> several folks took the time to welcome.
>>
>> That sounds hard to coordinate, because all the members of the "committee"
>> would have to subscribe to the podling dev list in order to reply on the
>> welcome thread.  Despite the best of intentions, I would anticipate
>> diminishing participation over time.
>
> Would they have to subscribe or would it just go to moderation and a
> moderator could push it through.  I wasn't thinking there'd be dozens,
> just more than one.

My model is the "new committer" announcement email that is a tradition in some
Apache communities.  For instance, in the case of Lucene, whenever a new
committer joins the announcement email gets a couple dozen "Congrats, welcome
aboard!" replies from across the community.  I figure that the occasion of a
podling joining the Incubator justifies a similar welcoming party.

In Lucene-land, the welcoming tradition seems to have built on itself over
time, as the number of respondents has increased over the years.  My concern
about an official "welcoming committee" laboring in obscurity is that there is
no positive feedback loop to keep things going or to replenish the ranks when
volunteers inevitably drop away.

Cross-posting to general@incubator addresses that problem, and also provides
an opportunity to publicize the subscription link for the dev list email once
it's actually set up.

>> How about if either the Champion or the Mentor who handles mailing list
>> set-up sends a cross-posted "Welcome Foo to the Incubator" message to the
>> podling dev list and general@incubator once the dev list goes live?  That
>> would give IPMC members and other interested parties who are already
>> subscribed to general@incubator the chance to say hello.  And embedding a
>> <mailto:dev-subscribe@foo.incubator.apache.org> link would give people an
>> opportunity to get involved with the podling right as it revs up.
>
> +1

OK, I've sent off a mail for Samza.  We're off to a slow start as far as
replies, but perhaps things will pick up in the future. :)  I'll send off
another "welcome" email for Sentry once they start using their dev list.  (It
looks like the list was set up but I don't see anything in the archives at
<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sentry-dev/>).

Marvin Humphrey

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