Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A687DCAC6 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6145 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2013 13:47:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 5995 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2013 13:47:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 5979 invoked by uid 99); 14 Jun 2013 13:47:29 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:47:29 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of rgardler@opendirective.com designates 209.85.220.41 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.41] (HELO mail-pa0-f41.google.com) (209.85.220.41) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:47:24 +0000 Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id bj3so672163pad.14 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 06:47:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=opendirective.com; s=opendirective; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=CHf08GfsOKv2h0McCNAr7a+VStevqkERgtSrehPC+Ps=; b=T7JM3EvWBcYt/cvV0iBfPKlNxsS9BX02Tk1UGVsdDCCTq1GushkNt3GZa2g7VL9Yw+ XMKlinznPbNl/zHEY3rBvl9fSRDK3PmhYai4tkv+aM3VP3OGzYHoIGF6FJw/57IoZFzK ZcyABCiYroZDzucsGMg/mF2A4gASXUlseMQ1Q= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=CHf08GfsOKv2h0McCNAr7a+VStevqkERgtSrehPC+Ps=; b=JXedI9WW3UxcLRhWkmbukdGUQ3HTrOIthA3pReTg2YBlCBv4CXjoYsgd+3WtvtdKOs RtVsJ4NUrYdDUcTRewfS8sa1yvb9mbNkMzgQveQ72pnQ1IxZ1sdIoNm/QbZxlENx6dFA AGY9OaChXBZTapSSmhQdLW8Jt6WSYBfrKSXvPk+dzp6i/iWSaMofELaLbFIo3OnCSaWK 4EMTZ7figf2qljBqlEYhE2LhNNPrDxgsB3HlCyrKEZTC3AE29NwvOUB9e/ZWYwF+Dx82 J4CbrvuE/GeTnYB419bkanjvsrGkrwlpyBMEw7FcsbXsqxGEVbhxSmd/pbh2LEkR69Re bFnQ== X-Received: by 10.66.119.35 with SMTP id kr3mr2647157pab.149.1371217624062; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 06:47:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.155.69 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 06:46:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [92.244.160.87] In-Reply-To: References: <49964378-1585-4E88-BB67-1ECE51889DE5@jaguNET.com> From: Ross Gardler Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 14:46:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmFl+kn6WYCjnvOUlh0hWJHR3tut1/Ekv+clzCkX5hcZV+68JeSykTTNZ3C7lqPzpNHGc/f X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 14 June 2013 14:40, Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >>... >> I propose we ensure that whatever we put before the board in July has >> an alternative course of action that does not disenfranchise the IPMC > > It is perfectly fine to disenfranchise the IPMC. It does not get a > blank pass. It must provide value. Competing ideas are allowed and > encouraged. The IPMC does not have a monopoly; it is subject to the > Board, which may decide other models may be workable; thus, the IPMC > needs to accept that fact. Yep. I said *alternative* What I want to do here is provide a resolution and supporting materials for the pTLP concept. My concern is that if the board says no (and it might) we should have an alternative that will allow the IPMC to pull value from the pTLP idea. With these two things together the board can evaluate the merit of both competing ideas. What I do not want to happen is we put all this effort into proposing the pTLP idea, then have the board reject it and the Stratos project being a month behind as a result. Some aspects of the pTLP idea are dependent on the board saying yes. Ross > > Cheers, > -g > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org