Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A18710938 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 02:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 76090 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2013 02:36:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 75559 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2013 02:36:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 75551 invoked by uid 99); 14 Jun 2013 02:36:46 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 02:36:46 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: error (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.128.169] (HELO mail-ve0-f169.google.com) (209.85.128.169) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 02:36:40 +0000 Received: by mail-ve0-f169.google.com with SMTP id m1so54162ves.28 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:35:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=yNH3QGjafjBzo6IpOnZfC7S2PcxHU30QFilq/nA2JQo=; b=mvR9sdlXyRbdf2vWsWZCNc3OW/uMjyMk21BcyXf8hLnOzya9YJI2PUx2G76cVXs0bV miWbRxXhVKDLp5ETWdFcTZpebe9NjUj7WiHrF+QeMUAGqmBF0z20GigZLNspfT4COW9g 1t5yxQJ+tBrwgtIKbxTjChG/MP3AkiHkwf6AhVgH84lRUGSuRuYh0SRc2p5HEBRw29lc p+c+0TZfZJOYQR7UlkMrSpZjnvKhYu5y8NkGw1+o9qN/3qcgt8mkigZCNRqeDhK8athG e8QrshBVENln01+hg2ow1LF4rhpfdTp/eUt9ZQxgNQ3wgcwqpQu9Hbd/7KN9o+p/LBqk WMdQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.105.9 with SMTP id r9mr126113vco.60.1371177358841; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.227.195 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:35:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [206.190.64.2] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:35:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project From: Marvin Humphrey To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn3uIn34ObE3yTosugvUZIhOBHBPYs1ZDZvPFvryWDngmS65moZhrxpFsnMHpfwkOvuCYVe X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would therefore like to propose that we use Apache Stratos as a test > case for the "probationary TLP" idea. If the Stratos folks are amenable, +1. It's an incremental, reversible step forward. With so many experienced Members and Mentors involved, Stratos is assured of getting everything they would get out of an ordinary incubation and more, even if there are some bumps. And I hope there will be a payoff for Stratos by sidestepping what is IMO the Incubator's flawed approach to meritocracy[1], where true responsibility arrives all at once on graduation. On general@, we'll probably get the usual storms of email. But we would have gotten those anyway, and at least we'll be talking about real data rather than hypotheticals. Marvin Humphrey [1] http://s.apache.org/nzm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org