Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BABFD103F9 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 90234 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2013 17:16:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 89482 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2013 17:16:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 89470 invoked by uid 99); 14 Jun 2013 17:16:56 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:16:56 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: error (nike.apache.org: encountered temporary error during SPF processing of domain of jim@jagunet.com) Received: from [76.96.62.48] (HELO qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.62.48) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:16:49 +0000 Received: from omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.71]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oFRg1l0041YDfWL55HG877; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:16:08 +0000 Received: from [192.168.199.10] ([69.251.80.74]) by omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oHG81l00o1cCKD93gHG8vE; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:16:08 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project From: Jim Jagielski In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:16:08 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1371230168; bh=aHH7LycfwJEaLZYdlkz6oj+CYRsXZ2Grr6Qq6jyj+nc=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=LMDIxRf6satmaE11cdvcqZZzyw3WDLww2FfioiedWRcxVtZk6QYHY4n6JavPvI4CZ CdPE4VEIAbFrZ8JhcG+aiSKKNisTk3mIYLeKeCeA4YjZQYJvaRyk+1OCsQaIABD/fn ovehJ1aC9LsZROUI+QHmXahib3wPNVyqY7OjaSTOny7bP2eOSP3NdQ4PVY+U+K6rMD d2GSc9NojD46fQXuNOXRv52JB2dFhtxYevTTLoxGzXwNHxqMxQojuHkhCtB6D1PVLq yrZsqJYVzfWoICPWOZ+fs4S2gXOxwRPp8q/yMVAxbNU0KZci8ZefWgcyJplhIGG5jd KNSq8Xmv9xbcQ== X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Jun 14, 2013, at 10:42 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" = wrote: >=20 > * pTLP are nothing different than what existed before there was an > Incubator. Yes we have more projects now. So what. We'll continue > to have more projects and those will eventually graduate to TLP, > so we'll be in the same place. >=20 That kind of ignores the reason why we created the Incubator in the 1st place. If what existed before worked, then we wouldn't be discussing an Incubator now :) For me, the main 2 goals of the Incubator are "legal clearance" and "oversight". I doubt the board will be happy with having additional oversight duties related to a pTLP. It's not what the board is for, or why it exists. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org