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From "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman
Date Tue, 18 Jun 2013 04:14:49 GMT
I'm not in favor of an Ombudsman. Seems like an extra
layer of overhead beyond what the Chair already provides. Seriously
does someone need a title in order to be the clearinghouse for folks'
honest assessments of the Incubator, its personnel, or other sensitive

My 2c.

Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Marvin Humphrey <>
Reply-To: "" <>
Date: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:11 PM
To: "" <>
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

>On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Alex Harui <> wrote:
>> Just curious, is the ombudsman not allowed to be a mentor for a podling?
>> Otherwise, that podling doesn't have a safe third-party?
>Good point.  Podlings are heavily dependent on their Mentors, especially
>providing IPMC votes on releases.  If you offend a Mentor and they leave,
>you be able to find someone else from the limited pool of IPMC members?  A
>reluctance to speak out is very understandable.
>Put another way, when the ombud is also a Mentor, the military-justice
>seems valid.
>I suppose that if the IPMC Chair is not the same as the ombud, they could
>serve as a backup ombud.  That would satisfy your concern so long as the
>and the Chair aren't both Mentors for the same podling.
>Marvin Humphrey
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