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From "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
Date Wed, 05 Jun 2013 15:04:46 GMT
Alan,

Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm not suggesting tweaking anything
nor changing Incubator process.

Notice I said "I think we should probably.."  Please tell me where
I said "You [or we] must.."

Again, it's Ramirez's call since he put the proposal up and is
the Champion. If he gets at least 3 IPMC +1s in a new thread (which
it looks like he will create), nothing has changed, all is well.

Cheers,
Chris

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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:00 AM
To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator

>Please, let's not make up new rules as we go along.
>
>To be sure as IPMC members we should proactively inform the prospective
>podling of the potential problems they will encounter entering the
>Incubator with less than 3 mentors.  It would commendable if IPMC members
>actively hunted such mentors down for the potential podling.
>
>But let's not do ad hoc tweaking to our processes.  Let's keep things
>simple and let the vote continue.
>
>
>Regards,
>Alan
>
>On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:54 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)"
><chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hey Alan,
>> 
>> Great question if there is an "official" policy here. My read is
>> that no it's based on tribal knowledge and informal assumption.
>> 
>> That said, let's take a simple data point: how many proposals
>> over the past few years have been accepted with less than 3
>> mentors (not considering like you mentioned that mentors do
>> go AWOL from time to time and that over the life of a podling,
>> there may be less than 3 active at a given time)?
>> 
>> It's Paul's proposal as Champion so, up to him, but my recommendation
>> would be to find 1 more wiling IPMC $victim..err mentor!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:48 AM
>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
>> 
>>> Mentors come and go.  Is there an explicit rule that a podling needs
>>> three mentors before it can start to be incubated?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)"
>>> <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Paul, guys; I just noticed that HotdoG only has 2 mentors right now
>>>> (myself, and pramirez).
>>>> 
>>>> Is there another IPMC mentor that would be willing to sign up
>>>> for the project? I think we should probably cancel the VOTE Paul,
>>>> and restart it with another mentor.
>>>> 
>>>> Besides that, Adam Estrada (VP, SIS) has expressed interest also
>>>> in the proposal. So we should sort that out. Sorry for the delay,
>>>> hopefully we can restart the VOTE shortly when we have a 3rd mentor
>>>> and sort out Adam's participation.
>>>> 
>>>> Paul can you send a [CANCEL] [VOTE] thread?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org"
>>>><general@incubator.apache.org>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:21 AM
>>>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
>>>> 
>>>>> Hey Jim,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think it should probably read:
>>>>> 
>>>>> We're looking for people interested in HotDog and to move the
>>>>>proposal
>>>>> into the Apache Community. The project is moving from a previously
>>>>> open source external community into Apache.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've updated the proposal on the wiki as such:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HotdoGProposal
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> 
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org"
>>>>><general@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:55 AM
>>>>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache HotdoG into the Incubator
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:28 PM, "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)"
>>>>>> <paul.m.ramirez@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We're looking for developers and sponsors.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sponsors??
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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