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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project
Date Thu, 13 Jun 2013 12:33:06 GMT

On Jun 12, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey <> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Ross Gardler
> <> wrote:
>> It's with great pleasure that I invite the IPMC to review a new
>> proposal [1] for the Apache Incubator. Please let us know if you have
>> any questions or comments - as you will see there are plenty of people
>> on the initial commit list ready and willing to answer your questions.
> It is certainly a large group and a thoroughly prepared proposal with a lot of
> resources behind it.
>> == Known Risks ==
>> Stratos has largely been developed by sponsored developers employed at
>> a single organization - WSO2.  Seeking a broader community of
>> contributors is a top goal of contributing Stratos to Apache.
>> WSO2 plans to continue to offer services and commercial support
>> packages for Stratos, so there is a financial incentive to broaden
>> Stratos’ appeal.  This may provide the misinterpretation that Stratos
>> remains merely a WSO2 technology.  However, WSO2’s main business
>> strategy is to build and support higher level PaaS offerings
>> (including the WSO2 middleware stack) on top of a common PaaS
>> framework, as provided by Stratos.  This includes a WSO2 StratosLive
>> option which is a public PaaS based on WSO2 Stratos.
> Kudos for the honest self-analysis.
> I wonder whether Apache Brand Management would cry foul on a trademark like
> "StratosLive" if such a product were to appear later because of the
> "confusingly similar name" guideline.  We've seen project founders leave and
> compete with ASF products while using confusingly similar names before, e.g.
> CouchBase.

I agree. I would assume that "Stratos" would become a trademark
of the ASF and, as such, WSO2's use of "StratosLive" as a
product name would not be allowed.

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