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From "Klevenz, Stephan" <stephan.klev...@sap.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator
Date Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:33:34 GMT
Hi Dennis,

Sorry for coming back so late to your valuable feedback. After re-thinking
about the trademark issue and your thoughts about confusion we come to
conclusion to use a different name for the project. I would like to change
our project name to

Apache Olingo

Olingo is a little bear [1] and that name should avoid any confusion with
the OASIS standard or any other potential trademark holder. If there are
no concerns then I will go and change our proposal to Apache Olingo.

WDYT?

Regards,
stephan

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olingo

On 18.06.13 15:58, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:

>I think there will be an issue with regard to trademarks and you will
>have to deal with folks seeing the trademark of "Apache OData" as a
>land-grab at "OData" itself.  The simplicity you think is avoiding
>confusion is, in that respect, causing confusion.
>
>In any case, it is always wise to avoid confusion of a (standard)
>specification, even OASIS Standard OData v3.0 or whatever, with the name
>of an implementation.  OASIS is going to make their own claims about some
>of those terms as well, if the past practice is any guide.
>
> - Dennis
>
>The ODF Toolkit snuck by, much to my dismay, even capturing odf as their
>incubator repository name, but they may have to deal with that to
>graduate to a TLP.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Klevenz, Stephan [mailto:stephan.klevenz@sap.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 06:27 AM
>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>Cc: dennis.hamilton@acm.org
>Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator
>
>Hello Dennis,
>
>Good point! The project naming was a challenge for us and maybe I just can
>explain why we prefer Apache OData as project name. The main reason is
>search. 
>
>Someone who is interested in OData will use this term and the result page
>will today list odata.org as the protocols homepage, Wikipedia which is
>fine and the OASIS TC. In future we would like to see that Apache OData is
>highly ranked and completes the search result list.
>
>If we use a different name someone has to know this name and has to search
>for it explicitly. We would like to keep it simple and avoid confusion.
>
>We had also a look into the ASF project naming guidelines and I think most
>of the points there are considered by the name Apache OData.
>
>
>Regards,
>Stephan
>
>On 18.06.13 03:28, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:
>
>>I think one concern here is appropriation of a generic, specified-tied
>>name to an implementation, even a reference implementation.
>>
>>"Apache OData" seems over-reaching in that respect, especially since
>>there are other projects, at ASF and elsewhere, that may employ OData
>>bindings and services of one sort or another.
>[ ... ]
>


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