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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator
Date Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:58:37 GMT
I think there will be an issue with regard to trademarks and you will have to deal with folks
seeing the trademark of "Apache OData" as a land-grab at "OData" itself.  The simplicity you
think is avoiding confusion is, in that respect, causing confusion.

In any case, it is always wise to avoid confusion of a (standard) specification, even OASIS
Standard OData v3.0 or whatever, with the name of an implementation.  OASIS is going to make
their own claims about some of those terms as well, if the past practice is any guide.

 - Dennis

The ODF Toolkit snuck by, much to my dismay, even capturing odf as their incubator repository
name, but they may have to deal with that to graduate to a TLP.

-----Original Message-----
From: Klevenz, Stephan [mailto:stephan.klevenz@sap.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 06:27 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc: dennis.hamilton@acm.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator

Hello Dennis,

Good point! The project naming was a challenge for us and maybe I just can
explain why we prefer Apache OData as project name. The main reason is
search. 

Someone who is interested in OData will use this term and the result page
will today list odata.org as the protocols homepage, Wikipedia which is
fine and the OASIS TC. In future we would like to see that Apache OData is
highly ranked and completes the search result list.

If we use a different name someone has to know this name and has to search
for it explicitly. We would like to keep it simple and avoid confusion.

We had also a look into the ASF project naming guidelines and I think most
of the points there are considered by the name Apache OData.


Regards,
Stephan

On 18.06.13 03:28, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:

>I think one concern here is appropriation of a generic, specified-tied
>name to an implementation, even a reference implementation.
>
>"Apache OData" seems over-reaching in that respect, especially since
>there are other projects, at ASF and elsewhere, that may employ OData
>bindings and services of one sort or another.
[ ... ]


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