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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator
Date Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:42:22 GMT

I support your choice to have a different name.  

 - Dennis

I'm not sure how "Olingo" is pronounced in Spanish but I'm certain there will be much fun
creating artwork of the little critter.  It looks like an animal that must be on the cover
of an O'Reilly book somewhere.  (I find raccoons, their cousins, more appealing, except when
they are pillaging the cherry tree at my house.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Klevenz, Stephan [] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 06:34 AM
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator
Importance: High

Hi Dennis,

Sorry for coming back so late to your valuable feedback. After re-thinking
about the trademark issue and your thoughts about confusion we come to
conclusion to use a different name for the project. I would like to change
our project name to

Apache Olingo

Olingo is a little bear [1] and that name should avoid any confusion with
the OASIS standard or any other potential trademark holder. If there are
no concerns then I will go and change our proposal to Apache Olingo.




On 18.06.13 15:58, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <> wrote:

>I think there will be an issue with regard to trademarks and you will
>have to deal with folks seeing the trademark of "Apache OData" as a
>land-grab at "OData" itself.  The simplicity you think is avoiding
>confusion is, in that respect, causing confusion.
>In any case, it is always wise to avoid confusion of a (standard)
>specification, even OASIS Standard OData v3.0 or whatever, with the name
>of an implementation.  OASIS is going to make their own claims about some
>of those terms as well, if the past practice is any guide.
> - Dennis
>The ODF Toolkit snuck by, much to my dismay, even capturing odf as their
>incubator repository name, but they may have to deal with that to
>graduate to a TLP.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Klevenz, Stephan []
>Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 06:27 AM
>Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator
>Hello Dennis,
>Good point! The project naming was a challenge for us and maybe I just can
>explain why we prefer Apache OData as project name. The main reason is
>Someone who is interested in OData will use this term and the result page
>will today list as the protocols homepage, Wikipedia which is
>fine and the OASIS TC. In future we would like to see that Apache OData is
>highly ranked and completes the search result list.
>If we use a different name someone has to know this name and has to search
>for it explicitly. We would like to keep it simple and avoid confusion.
>We had also a look into the ASF project naming guidelines and I think most
>of the points there are considered by the name Apache OData.
>On 18.06.13 03:28, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <> wrote:
>>I think one concern here is appropriation of a generic, specified-tied
>>name to an implementation, even a reference implementation.
>>"Apache OData" seems over-reaching in that respect, especially since
>>there are other projects, at ASF and elsewhere, that may employ OData
>>bindings and services of one sort or another.
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