Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D841F531 for ; Wed, 8 May 2013 09:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 90551 invoked by uid 500); 8 May 2013 09:20:01 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 89987 invoked by uid 500); 8 May 2013 09:20:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 89950 invoked by uid 99); 8 May 2013 09:20:00 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 08 May 2013 09:20:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-ea0-f172.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username bdelacretaz, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 08 May 2013 09:19:59 +0000 Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id r16so819222ead.31 for ; Wed, 08 May 2013 02:19:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XP085TFh74W2Eo0nUve98t7H5aTBVorn7SiuiPRkuxA=; b=X0RS3Qxbx4BmIPd8akaKkX4Ps0MH2L0v4eElU6b+1kETwtwi0vqYX+4RZ7v7/R2N11 G6RuRMJUsTR42wuESBIwOgVSaExAqiVJuFEtBKrdtPqQHR+KGLC5ndtI+DngPlinECNw GqICVumFNXkFT2thxlekYoR2Mu7UjHlCn2rQplneHpArGr2v9A2TPvx+fh7V4E2NOstC eAJsbFL+ed5tkmzR2BejtE5N6oy61mVmflHgXlTlnknGHCdK3kSFfMSRX7nRWTBDeQPP aXftFS8aEAnBo69BeWtlW9ykLeo7WOBW+OhZrbL9BJqmW+F1thGoEKf3XJ2O6RnG5Yrj MUSg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.0.129 with SMTP id 1mr14756343eeb.43.1368004798093; Wed, 08 May 2013 02:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.146.206 with HTTP; Wed, 8 May 2013 02:19:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1367942109.32165.140661227696513.44D5C847@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 11:19:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC From: Bertrand Delacretaz To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > ...I've made a proposal for giving the IPMC teeth but it hasn't gained > support.. URL? > ...In the absence of something else with teeth then I'm +1 for > probationary TLPs as proposed by Chris as long as we stop accepting > projects that are likely to run into problems according to our > collective experience.... If you're able to find out that a podling will cause problems in the future, or that its mentors will become inactive, maybe I should hire you for this lottery betting club ;-) Apart from that I agree that the board doesn't have cycles to handle problematic podlings or missing mentors, and as a result whatever actions it would take would be much harsher than what we do here. -Bertrand --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org