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Subject: Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?
From: Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
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If no one minds I will change them all to dormant, since all are welcome =
back to the fold, should they so desire.


Regards,
Alan

On May 27, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com> =
wrote:

> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM, John D. Ament =
<john.d.ament@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator =
perspective.
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>> Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but
>> believe later on we can build it back up.
>> Retired - we've given up all hope of becoming a TLP, instead we think =
it's
>> best to archive the code/move it to github/move it to bitbucket and =
allow
>> others who want to work on it to just grab it and go.
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> The difference is one goes to github and one does not?
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> After this interpretation I would expect dormant projects to retire.
> Retired projects
> can be revived too. It does not matter if there was something on =
GitHub or not.
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> Not enough for me to maintain two terms.
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>> Just my 2 cents..
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>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Christian Grobmeier =
<grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:
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>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Yeah, I like the word dormant as well.  Should we rename them all =
to
>>> dormant?
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>>> +1 from me. So far I don't see any difference in the end.
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>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alan
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>>>> On May 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
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>>>>> I think it was just a question of 'retiring' sounding too final. =
Using
>>>>> the word 'dormant' was less threatening, and made it more feasible =
for
>>>>> the podlings to go, well, dormant.
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>>>>> Upayavira
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>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013, at 05:39 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>>>>>> They kinda sound the same.  Why didn't podlings want to retire?  =
Does
>>>>>> anyone know?
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>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Alan
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>>>>>> On May 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier =
<grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> I asked the same question in july 2011, and got a response from =
Henri
>>>>>>> Yandell which I repost here:
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>>>>>>> "Given the PPMC is closed down, I think it has to be retired.
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>>>>>>> Dormant implies a PPMC is taking some time off.
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>>>>>>> Basically this is a larger version of "don't be afraid to delete =
a
>>>>>>> line of code; it's in version control".
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>>>>>>> Hen"
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>>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Alan Cabrera =
<adc@toolazydogs.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Looking at the podlings.xml and it's not clear to me what the
>>> difference is.  I'm sure I neglected to read some documentation bit.
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>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Alan
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