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From "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: YAMP to fix the Incubator (*)
Date Tue, 14 May 2013 19:01:52 GMT
And you seem to consistently imply that my proposal means "destroy it"
when I've constantly demonstrated that in fact it's a series of steps,
that are easily reversible in the traditional Apache way. The documentation
moving to the stewardship of ComDev not working out? Move it back.
Probationary TLPs not working out? Move them back.

Anyways I'm done pointing it out.

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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com>
Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:11 AM
To: general <general@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: YAMP to fix the Incubator (*)

>I've removed the reference to me. It seemed to imply I agree with your
>position here. I do not. I was merely encouraging you to add your
>suggestion to the document since you felt it was being ignored.
>
>In my opinion the IPMC is not broken. My suggestions for some minor
>improvements are on the wiki page.
>
>Ross
>
>Sent from a mobile device, please excuse mistakes and brevity
>On 14 May 2013 18:44, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <
>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> hahhahha, done!
>>
>> 
>>http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorIssues2013#Issue_08_-_The_IPMC_
>>is
>> _broken
>>
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com>
>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:39 AM
>> To: general <general@incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: YAMP to fix the Incubator (*)
>>
>> >Feel free to add a "IPMC is broken" with a solution of "destroy it" and
>> >link to TL:DR proposal as a solution.
>> >
>> >Sent from a mobile device, please excuse mistakes and brevity
>> >On 14 May 2013 18:17, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <
>> >chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm not sure why Yet another proposal is needed. This is already
>>longer
>> >> than my own,
>> >> and kind of completely ignores the fact that I already wrote a TL;DR
>> >> version of this.
>> >> Bertrand's rationale is that it's hard to track email. Precisely why
>>I
>> >> wrote my own
>> >> proposal for this over a year and a half ago.
>> >>
>> >> Can someone clearly state in non general terms how this is different
>> >>than:
>> >>
>> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorDeconstructionProposal
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >> Senior Computer Scientist
>> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> >> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com>
>> >> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org"
>><general@incubator.apache.org>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:44 AM
>> >> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: YAMP to fix the Incubator (*)
>> >>
>> >> >There is already some really good ideas in this page. Thank you for
>> >> >kicking this off Bertrand.
>> >> >
>> >> >http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorIssues2013
>> >> >
>> >> >On 13 May 2013 15:04, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org>
>> >>wrote:
>> >> >> (Yet Another Meta Proposal ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dunno if it's just me but I have totally lost track of what the
>> >> >> current proposals are, who's supporting which options etc.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To try to make sense of all this, I have created
>> >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorIssues2013 and suggest
>> that
>> >> >> whoever thinks the Incubator needs improvements lists their issues
>> >> >> there, as concisely as possible, with suggestions for fixing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> People can then comment there (with their names in brackets so
we
>>see
>> >> >> who says what) - having all that on one page should help.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Bertrand
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (*) I actually don't think the Incubator is broken BTW...but
>>fleshing
>> >> >> out that page should allow us to find out
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 
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