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From "John D. Ament" <john.d.am...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?
Date Wed, 29 May 2013 19:38:41 GMT
I can't see any place in the docs that describe dormant.


On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:36 PM, ant elder <ant.elder@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Mark and John, the terms mean different things, and the term
> "retired" is reasonably well understood now and mentioned in various places
> in the Incubator documentation so wouldn't it be better to keep it as is?
> Are there really any dormant poddlings? If so probably they are really
> retired now and they should just be changed to that.
>
>    ...ant
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
> wrote:
>
> > If no one minds I will change them all to dormant, since all are welcome
> > back to the fold, should they so desire.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alan
> >
> > On May 27, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >> I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator
> perspective.
> > >>
> > >> Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but
> > >> believe later on we can build it back up.
> > >> Retired - we've given up all hope of becoming a TLP, instead we think
> > it's
> > >> best to archive the code/move it to github/move it to bitbucket and
> > allow
> > >> others who want to work on it to just grab it and go.
> > >
> > > The difference is one goes to github and one does not?
> > >
> > > After this interpretation I would expect dormant projects to retire.
> > > Retired projects
> > > can be revived too. It does not matter if there was something on GitHub
> > or not.
> > >
> > > Not enough for me to maintain two terms.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Just my 2 cents..
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Christian Grobmeier <
> > grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>> Yeah, I like the word dormant as well.  Should we rename them all
to
> > >>> dormant?
> > >>>
> > >>> +1 from me. So far I don't see any difference in the end.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>> Alan
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On May 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk>
wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I think it was just a question of 'retiring' sounding too final.
> > Using
> > >>>>> the word 'dormant' was less threatening, and made it more feasible
> > for
> > >>>>> the podlings to go, well, dormant.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Upayavira
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013, at 05:39 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
> > >>>>>> They kinda sound the same.  Why didn't podlings want to
retire?
> >  Does
> > >>>>>> anyone know?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>> Alan
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On May 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier <
> > grobmeier@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I asked the same question in july 2011, and got a response
from
> > Henri
> > >>>>>>> Yandell which I repost here:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> "Given the PPMC is closed down, I think it has to be
retired.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Dormant implies a PPMC is taking some time off.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Basically this is a larger version of "don't be afraid
to delete
> a
> > >>>>>>> line of code; it's in version control".
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hen"
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Alan Cabrera <
> adc@toolazydogs.com
> > >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Looking at the podlings.xml and it's not clear
to me what the
> > >>> difference is.  I'm sure I neglected to read some documentation bit.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>> Alan
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
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