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From Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com>
Subject Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC
Date Tue, 07 May 2013 03:45:00 GMT
On May 5, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:

> Discussions on Ross' and Chris' proposals ground to a halt.
> 
> In my view, there are real issues that drove those discussions, even if
> those discussions drove some of us to distraction.
> 
> A bit before the wiki crashed, I wrote:
> 
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BensonApril2013ProcessProposals
> 
> The TL;DR version of this is:
> 
> 1: let's take Champions seriously as a role
> 2: let's ask for a minimal heartbeat from every podling every month

What we're virtually left with is one mentor, now called a champion.  Removing hard responsibilities
from the mentor effectively nullifies the mentor role.

Let's get rid of champions and shepherds and hold the mentors to their responsibilities.


Regards,
Alan



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