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From Joseph Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?
Date Wed, 29 May 2013 19:45:34 GMT
What we really need now is a few hundred more emails on this exciting subject, just like every
other year!  At the end we can all agree to disagree and go away sad that nothing ever gets
done around here, just like every other year we have this interesting debate!

Party on I say.

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On May 29, 2013, at 3:38 PM, "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can't see any place in the docs that describe dormant.
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:36 PM, ant elder <ant.elder@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I agree with Mark and John, the terms mean different things, and the term
>> "retired" is reasonably well understood now and mentioned in various places
>> in the Incubator documentation so wouldn't it be better to keep it as is?
>> Are there really any dormant poddlings? If so probably they are really
>> retired now and they should just be changed to that.
>> 
>>   ...ant
>> 
>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> If no one minds I will change them all to dormant, since all are welcome
>>> back to the fold, should they so desire.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> On May 27, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>>> I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator
>> perspective.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but
>>>>> believe later on we can build it back up.
>>>>> Retired - we've given up all hope of becoming a TLP, instead we think
>>> it's
>>>>> best to archive the code/move it to github/move it to bitbucket and
>>> allow
>>>>> others who want to work on it to just grab it and go.
>>>> 
>>>> The difference is one goes to github and one does not?
>>>> 
>>>> After this interpretation I would expect dormant projects to retire.
>>>> Retired projects
>>>> can be revived too. It does not matter if there was something on GitHub
>>> or not.
>>>> 
>>>> Not enough for me to maintain two terms.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just my 2 cents..
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Christian Grobmeier <
>>> grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yeah, I like the word dormant as well.  Should we rename them
all to
>>>>>> dormant?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +1 from me. So far I don't see any difference in the end.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk>
wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think it was just a question of 'retiring' sounding too
final.
>>> Using
>>>>>>>> the word 'dormant' was less threatening, and made it more
feasible
>>> for
>>>>>>>> the podlings to go, well, dormant.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Upayavira
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013, at 05:39 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>>>>>>>>> They kinda sound the same.  Why didn't podlings want
to retire?
>>> Does
>>>>>>>>> anyone know?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier <
>>> grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I asked the same question in july 2011, and got a
response from
>>> Henri
>>>>>>>>>> Yandell which I repost here:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "Given the PPMC is closed down, I think it has to
be retired.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Dormant implies a PPMC is taking some time off.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Basically this is a larger version of "don't be afraid
to delete
>> a
>>>>>>>>>> line of code; it's in version control".
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hen"
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Alan Cabrera <
>> adc@toolazydogs.com
>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at the podlings.xml and it's not clear
to me what the
>>>>>> difference is.  I'm sure I neglected to read some documentation bit.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Alan
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