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From Suresh Marru <sma...@apache.org>
Subject Re: If I were king of the forest
Date Wed, 08 May 2013 20:09:36 GMT
On May 8, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
>>>>> One last suggested refinement:
>>>>> 
>>>>> At least two mentors, but perhaps not allow more than three, where the
third is generally a backup for the others in a transition period, such as one of the mentors
looking to shed their responsibilities. One point that has come out of the discussion has
been a lack of clear responsibility. Adding more mentors dilutes that responsibility. Two
allows one as backup for the other.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, this was what I was thinking as well.  Two active mentors, maybe one
or two inactive ones but since they officially declared themselves inactive the active mentor
know not to assume anything of them.
>>> 
>>> I may be incorrect in my understanding of the official ASF policy here
>>> [1], but WRT a release, doesn't it require at least 3 +1 votes of the
>>> appropriate PMC (in the case of podlings, the IPMC)?  If the mentors
>>> were limited to 2 within the podlings, then would that leave all podling
>>> in a position of having to get a third +1 from the IPMC?
>> 
>> We're the IPMC, we can change the rules if we need to.
> 
> Oh, I see this is an ASF rule.  Maybe we should have three active mentors?

Three active mentors is fine. But I personally would rather prefer a trip to general for the
3rd vote just to get diverse perspectives. But again this is debatable in the light of unattended
release threads, but I am looking at the positive learning aspect here. But I am not a good
judge of whats best because I hardly have spent time to verify releases outside the projects
I am mentoring. I am eager to hear from people like Sebb who provide outstanding release verification
in this forum. Will a lazy consensus IPMC time be as motivating (for taking time to verify
releases) as the required 3rd vote? 

In any case, I will not divert the topic and dilute the just of the entire thread. Looking
foreword to see all these threads converge into some actionable form soon. 

Suresh

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> Regards,
> Alan
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