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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: [INVALID][RESULT][VOTE] Accept MRQL into the Incubator
Date Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:45:45 GMT

On Mar 15, 2013, at 7:05 AM, Matt Franklin wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Alex Karasulu <akarasulu@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 3:01 PM, ant elder <ant.elder@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Alex Karasulu <akarasulu@apache.org
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Edward J. Yoon <edwardyoon@apache.org
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> could you please close the "Create MRQL" tasks in the Infra Jira
>>> until
>>>>>> the situation has been cleared up. Whenever this all has been sorted
>>>>>> out you can reopen the issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since this might not be fixed soon, proposal can be changed
>>>>> (especially corporation volunteers). And, thank you for your
>>>>> suggestion, but I'm already in initial committers list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To IPMC, I would request you to focus more on reviewing Proposal in
>>>>> the future. The opportunity of MRQL should not be faded by my mistake.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> Bravo! There was no malice in the vote, just a simple mistake. If need
>>> be I
>>>> or Mo can take on the Champion role.
>>>> 
>>>> Are there others from the IPMC that would be interested in mentoring
>>> MRQL?
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> -- Alex
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The champion role is really just to help the proposal through any
>>> discussion prior to being accepted as a poddling so thats been done and it
>>> makes little difference now.
>> 
>> 
>> True. I'm totally down with your reasoning.
>> 
>> But don't you think it might be a formality we need to comply with, even if
>> it does not make sense at this stage?
>> 
>> Mohammed had volunteered to be a mentor so
>>> lets continue as that and I'll add myself as mentor too just to help if
>>> anymore is needed. So that gives plenty of mentors, we don't need more
>>> voting for that as the Incubator PMC can update mentors as it sees fit. So
>>> lets just continue on with that and the poddling accepted.
>>> 
>>> 
>> Based on your presence as a mentor along with Mo and myself I see this
>> poddling as accepted as well. If there's pressure to fill the Champion role
>> it can be handled on demand.
> 
> Keep in mind that the role of champion was expanded slightly [1].  I
> think it is important to ensure that MRQL has a champion listed.  I
> agree that the matter should be resolved once the champion and
> additional mentors are listed.
> 
> [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion
> 
>> 
>> Ted, Dave is this situation now more acceptable and does it alleviate your
>> concerns?

In a word, yes.

Adding an appropriate champion and enough mentors solves my concerns.

Regards,
Dave

>> If not we want to know why and take steps to rectify the
>> situation accordingly. I personally really appreciate your diligence on
>> this matter. As a mentor I should have caught the problems you sited but
>> because of the Champion's ex-VP role (Hama?) I thought he was a member of
>> both the ASF and the IPMC. I should have checked.
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> -- Alex
> 
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