Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E67CE0D5 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 68886 invoked by uid 500); 26 Feb 2013 21:19:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 68616 invoked by uid 500); 26 Feb 2013 21:19:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 68608 invoked by uid 99); 26 Feb 2013 21:19:02 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:19:02 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [128.149.139.106] (HELO mail.jpl.nasa.gov) (128.149.139.106) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:18:53 +0000 Received: from mail.jpl.nasa.gov (ap-ehub-sp02.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.137.149]) by smtp.jpl.nasa.gov (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id r1QLI1vV009310 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits) verified NO) for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:18:32 -0800 Received: from AP-EMBX-SP40.RES.AD.JPL ([169.254.7.238]) by ap-ehub-sp02.RES.AD.JPL ([fe80::dd85:7b07:1e36:7e3c%15]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:17:48 -0800 From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Curator for the Apache Incubator Thread-Topic: [PROPOSAL] Curator for the Apache Incubator Thread-Index: AQHOE766y7/9rAJzW0aw31Ez/kK5JZiL/GAAgABAfoCAAAYQgIAAjn0AgAAK6YCAAA4cgIAABOGA//+H5wCAAJwAgIAABByA//+OoYA= Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:17:47 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.1.130117 x-originating-ip: [128.149.137.114] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Source-Sender: chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov X-AUTH: Authorized X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi Luciano, On 2/26/13 12:03 PM, "Luciano Resende" wrote: >> > > >+1, We don't need to discuss exit criteria before entering incubation. Actually we do and I can. Else I'm pretty useless on the IPMC. I just went through an experience where my objection/VOTE didn't really mean anything in a situation that I didn't think was correct (see HCatalog/Hive). I will be darned sure to discuss exit criteria now as I wish I would have paid attention and done so then, would have saved hassle all around. >And if the Zookeeper PMC wants to adopt Curator as part of the >Zookeeper project (see distinction from sub-project language, which is >what the Board does not favor), >they can work with the community and >do it....=20 Define "working with the community". My definition of that doesn't include entering the Incubator. My definition of that means, Pat or someone else on the ZK PMC starts getting Curator patches and/or committing them and Jordan or Jay become Committers/PMC members on ZK because of those contributions (and have their ICLAs on file, etc.) >Having said that, the exit criteria should really be an >option instead of being dictated. I'm questioning "graduation" to an existing TLP (and not as a new one) as a valid exit criteria of the Incubator. I don't think it makes sense. Cheers, Chris --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org