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From Andrei Savu <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Provisionr join the Apache Incubator
Date Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:53:46 GMT
Hi Benson -

Thanks for your feedback! It's too early to decide if there is an overlap
between communities. Provisionr solves a different problem being focused on
semi-automated workflows (e.g. with Rundeck) and cloud portability while
Whirr is more focused on deploying services from the Hadoop stack.

I had this conversation before with Tom.

-- Andrei Savu

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Benson Margulies <>wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Tom White <> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Andrei Savu <>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Tom do you want to be a champion for this proposal?
> >
> > Yes, I'd be happy to.
> >
> > One thing I think is worth discussing more here is whether Provisionr
> > should be a TLP on graduation, or whether it should be a module in
> > Whirr.
> Well, that puts this proposal into a gray area. In case you haven't
> been reading all the traffic on this list, I'll give a quick summary
> here.
> Historically, the Foundation had 'subprojects', and the the incubator
> hosted podlings intended, eventually, to become subprojects of
> existing TLPs.  We don't do that anymore. If Provisionr becomes part
> of Whir, it just becomes, well, part of Whir.
> That raises the question of what you need the incubator for if this is
> your goal. There's a pretty simple alternative. The existing
> Provisionr team works with Whir to do an IP grant of the code to the
> Foundation. The existing team submits ICLAs. Whir makes a branch or
> other distinctive tree in source control and grants the Provisionr
> team commit access _to that tree_. Over time, the Provisionr people
> earn full committer status by merit, and appropriate adjustments are
> made to the tree structure.
> Given the state of the conversation about policy on this subject, I
> think it would be reasonable to ask you all to talk to the Whir people
> about this, and see if you an all come to an agreement for something
> like this in parallel with a discussion here.
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