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From Josh Wills <jwi...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Knox Hadoop Gateway Project
Date Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:27:53 GMT
I thought that the need for diversity referred to the community, not to the
mentors.

I strongly advocate for newly incubating projects choosing their own
initial members (you need only search for the epic thread that resulted
from the Crunch Proposal circa May 2012), but it seems like recent data
suggests that starting out with a small set of committers from a single
organization working on a large and complex codebase is a recipe for
diversity issues and a difficult path out of the incubator.

Kevin et al., please choose whomever you want, but do consider getting some
folks from other organizations to seed the community. It does so much good
for the project over the long term.


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Devaraj Das <ddas@hortonworks.com> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> Happy to see such a hugely positive response on the proposal. I'll put
> up a vote tomorrow.
>
> Now, on the mentors, I think we have enough at this point and we have
> also addressed the diversity concern. I had got the confirmation from
> Chris Douglas and Chris Mattmann yesterday afternoon that they would
> participate as mentors in the project. On the nominations for getting
> involved in the project, you are welcome to come in as contributors.
> Individuals in the initial list of committers all have a view point
> that the committers list be kept as such and the standard practice
> (based on contributions, after the project is accepted for incubation)
> for accepting new committers be followed here.
>
> Thanks
> Devaraj.
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Kevin Minder
> <kevin.minder@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> > Hi Bertrand,
> > Currently all of the mentors are affiliated with Hortonworks as well.  We
> > can reach out to a number of other people and organizations that are
> > interested in the project to diversify if this is an important
> consideration
> > at this stage.
> >
> > One other question I have is about creating a wiki to host the proposal.
>  I
> > don't seem to have privs to create http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/knox
> .
> > Would that be the correct place to evolve the proposal?  If so, how do I
> go
> > about creating in?
> > Kevin.
> >
> >
> > On 2/11/13 10:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Kevin Minder
> >> <kevin.minder@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> >> ...
> >>>
> >>> === Nominated Mentors ===
> >>>
> >>> Owen O’Malley (omalley AT apache DOT org)
> >>> Mahadev Konar (mahadev AT apache DOT org)
> >>> Alan Gates (gates AT apache DOT org)
> >>> Devaraj Das (ddas AT apache DOT org)
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Considering all initial committers are from hortonworks, I'd like to
> >> see affiliations for mentors as well - or at least indicate which
> >> mentors are *not* affiliated with hortonworks.
> >>
> >> -Bertrand
> >>
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> >
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>
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Kevin Minder
> <kevin.minder@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> > Hi Bertrand,
> > Currently all of the mentors are affiliated with Hortonworks as well.  We
> > can reach out to a number of other people and organizations that are
> > interested in the project to diversify if this is an important
> consideration
> > at this stage.
> >
> > One other question I have is about creating a wiki to host the proposal.
>  I
> > don't seem to have privs to create http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/knox
> .
> > Would that be the correct place to evolve the proposal?  If so, how do I
> go
> > about creating in?
> > Kevin.
> >
> >
> > On 2/11/13 10:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Kevin Minder
> >> <kevin.minder@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> >> ...
> >>>
> >>> === Nominated Mentors ===
> >>>
> >>> Owen O’Malley (omalley AT apache DOT org)
> >>> Mahadev Konar (mahadev AT apache DOT org)
> >>> Alan Gates (gates AT apache DOT org)
> >>> Devaraj Das (ddas AT apache DOT org)
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Considering all initial committers are from hortonworks, I'd like to
> >> see affiliations for mentors as well - or at least indicate which
> >> mentors are *not* affiliated with hortonworks.
> >>
> >> -Bertrand
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
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> >>
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Kevin Minder
> <kevin.minder@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> > Hi Bertrand,
> > Currently all of the mentors are affiliated with Hortonworks as well.  We
> > can reach out to a number of other people and organizations that are
> > interested in the project to diversify if this is an important
> consideration
> > at this stage.
> >
> > One other question I have is about creating a wiki to host the proposal.
>  I
> > don't seem to have privs to create http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/knox
> .
> > Would that be the correct place to evolve the proposal?  If so, how do I
> go
> > about creating in?
> > Kevin.
> >
> >
> > On 2/11/13 10:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Kevin Minder
> >> <kevin.minder@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> >> ...
> >>>
> >>> === Nominated Mentors ===
> >>>
> >>> Owen O’Malley (omalley AT apache DOT org)
> >>> Mahadev Konar (mahadev AT apache DOT org)
> >>> Alan Gates (gates AT apache DOT org)
> >>> Devaraj Das (ddas AT apache DOT org)
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Considering all initial committers are from hortonworks, I'd like to
> >> see affiliations for mentors as well - or at least indicate which
> >> mentors are *not* affiliated with hortonworks.
> >>
> >> -Bertrand
> >>
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> >>
> >
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