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From Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] HCatalog to Graduate and become part of Apache Hive
Date Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:39:12 GMT

On Feb 12, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

> I wonder: would the Hive community be willing to take an active role
> in supervising the work of the hcatalog people with an eye toward
> reaching the conclusion that they could be accepted as committers en
> bloc?

How are you proposing this would work?  With HCat as part of Hive or still in the Incubator?

Alan.

> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Alex Karasulu <akarasulu@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
>>> <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>> ...I'm -1 on this graduation...
>>> 
>>> -1 from me as well, I agree with Chris' points.
>>> 
>>> 
>> Yes these were good points however I don't think the HCatalog community has
>> enough critical mass for a TLP at this point in time. I think this and the
>> overwhelming dependencies on Hive made the community favor merging under
>> the Hive TLP. I can understand both points of view coming from Chris and
>> from Alan.
>> 
>> 
>>> This looks either like an umbrella project (which we don't want
>>> anymore) or a PMC not trusting its committers.
>>> 
>>> IMO the options are either graduating Hive as a TLP (assuming the
>>> 
>> 
>> Bertrand I am presuming you meant HCatalog as a TLP here ...
>> 
>> 
>>> podling is in good standing for that to happen), or having Hive adopt
>>> the HCatalog code *and its committers*.
>>> 
>>> 
>> It is unfortunate that the Hive TLP does not trust the HCatalog community
>> enough to merge the two. However if we're looking at a new TLP for HCatalog
>> I think we're going to have to continue trying to build community a bit
>> longer.
>> 
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> -- Alex
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