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From Upayavira ...@odoko.co.uk>
Subject Re: No more existing-TLP graduations (was: [PROPOSAL] Curator for the Apache Incubator)
Date Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:42:54 GMT
Just trying to understand what is being suggested...

Is it that, should a podling decide it can't go for TLP, and that
another TLP is prepared to accept them, then effectively the
responsibility that the incubator PMC has is transferred to that TLP.
*They* need to incubate the new community into its own. The process of
creating a new community and integrating one into another are completely
different tasks that require differing approaches.

Have I got it right?

Upayavira


On Wed, Feb 27, 2013, at 05:52 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> On 2/27/13 9:44 AM, "Dave Fisher" <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> >[..snip..]
> 
> Thanks for the examples.
> 
> >Each case differs. I can agree that we do not want to encourage new
> >podlings to come in with Plan A to be graduating into an existing TLP,
> >but I don't think we should exclude a future case should it be strong
> >enough to convince the IPMC.
> 
> TL;DR here -- your point above is the one that I am trying to
> make/echo/make strong (minus the excluding part for me
> which I'll get to in a sec).
> 
> Point: "we do not want to encourage new podlings to come in with Plan A
> to
> be graduating into an existing TLP"
> 
> That's my entire point, and I think Greg's +1, and Bertrand's +1, etc.
> Anyone can moan and groan to go even
> further than that. I've been around the Foundation long enough to know
> that may take time/effort, etc. YMMV.
> That said, if another future situation comes up I don't think at least in
> my current POV that I would be
> convinced that that's ever good and that's based on my experience first
> hand being in many situations recently
> that involved this (Lucene, Hadoop, Nutch, Tika, etc.)
> 
> The rest of the scenarios are dealt with at a time that there is an
> actual
> concrete example by the parties involved that
> need to be. Until then, we are making conjecture.
> 
> The outcome I'd like to see is to echo and promote what I've labeled
> Point: above. Seems I'm not alone. We'll see
> what happens and you're welcome to your opinion, as I am to mine.
> 
> Cheers,
> Chris
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >> That's the whole point of the "sponsoring PMC" portion of the Incubator
> >> proposal, from the beginning, to declare
> >> the intent to graduate into a existing TLP - otherwise that section
> >> wouldn't be needed and the answer would always
> >> be Incubator PMC. For the record, since the whole umbrella project
> >>thing,
> >> most of the sponsoring (I can name perhaps 1-5)
> >> incoming Incubator podlings are all Incubator PMC sponsored, for intent
> >>to
> >> graduate to TLP.
> >> 
> >> On the graduating into existing TLP end, I don't think that makes sense
> >>-
> >> apparently at least 2 other people don't either judging by +1s and
> >>words.
> >> I would like to fix that. But, I don't think I've ever seen #1 where
> >>they
> >> haven't already declared that their intent from the beginning.
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> (2) Receiving PMC votes to accept IP - if not cleared then it accepts
> >>> that responsibility.
> >> 
> >> If PMCs can accept the type of "podling sized" IP contribution then I
> >> think that the Incubator is a pointless committee.
> >> 
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chris
> >> 
> >> 
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