Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D73CDEBF9 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 48872 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jan 2013 17:15:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 48681 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jan 2013 17:15:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 48606 invoked by uid 99); 14 Jan 2013 17:15:34 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:15:34 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of aharui@adobe.com designates 64.18.1.37 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.18.1.37] (HELO exprod6og116.obsmtp.com) (64.18.1.37) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:15:28 +0000 Received: from outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com ([193.104.215.16]) by exprod6ob116.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUPQ9GyHDASbkpDoUv7DG0MikSWRB40EM@postini.com; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:15:07 PST Received: from inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (inner-relay-4b [10.128.4.237]) by outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id r0EHF6C9005418; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:15:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nahub02.corp.adobe.com (nahub02.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.98]) by inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id r0EHF4XL019845; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:15:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from NAMBX02.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.127.96]) by nahub02.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.98]) with mapi; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:15:03 -0800 From: Alex Harui To: "general@incubator.apache.org" , Joe Schaefer Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:15:00 -0800 Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Expressing priorities about release reviews Thread-Topic: [DISCUSS] Expressing priorities about release reviews Thread-Index: AQHN8OdvTP4jXyirxkyDtTiEFQhb+JhGZk8AgAACHoCAAoLggIAAKELy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <924DE05C19409B438EB81DE683A942D91046A4CD@CHEXMBX1A.CHBOSTON.ORG> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/13.13.0.120411 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 1/14/13 7:01 AM, "Chen, Pei" wrote: >> Really is it so bad to say to a project with a bug in their license and >> notice info: >> fix this in trunk and show me the revision and I'll go ahead and approve= your >> release as-is. >> Running through iterations of this is very labor-intensive for the proje= ct, >> and >> anything we can do to cut down on the pain involved in cutting incubator >> releases is IMO worthwhile. >=20 > + 1 for this!=20 > Perhaps it would be nice for the podling to just come up with a list of a= ll of > the 3rd party libraries in a Jira and have a group (possibly from legal)= that > reviews them and helps them officially construct the LICENSE/NOTICE files= the > first time around (There are usually a lot of grey areas and not an easy > straight reference to an outdated list of approved compatible licenses). = Most > of the committers are developers and not lawyers- so it would be nice to = have > developers do what they do best and focus on building awesome code. I don't agree. As a member of a recently graduated podling, it was impressed on me that the point of incubation was to not only figure out the Apache Way of meritocracy and voting, but also to get the legal aspects right. IMO, Apache is not GitHub: it is a corporation with bylaws and is a legal entity, so we have to get the legal stuff right and it is our responsibility as developers to learn enough about the legal stuff to get i= t right. If there is a grey area, err on the side of caution or ask Apache Legal. Yes, it is painful and slows you down, but usually, the same laws also protect you. --=20 Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org