From general-return-39229-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Sat Jan 12 19:23:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10206EA7C for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9814 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jan 2013 19:23:15 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 9635 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jan 2013 19:23:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 9627 invoked by uid 99); 12 Jan 2013 19:23:15 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:23:15 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of sergio.fernandez@salzburgresearch.at designates 212.183.10.131 as permitted sender) Received: from [212.183.10.131] (HELO mx0.salzburgresearch.at) (212.183.10.131) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:23:08 +0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by Salzburg Research on mx0.salzburgresearch.at Received: from mail01.salzburgresearch.at (mail01.salzburgresearch.at [172.16.0.31]) by mx0.salzburgresearch.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2757222A6CA; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:22:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.15] (82-194-154-125.dyn.salzburg-online.at [82.194.154.125]) by mail01.salzburgresearch.at (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 051B34C05; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:22:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50F1B7F0.8010003@salzburgresearch.at> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:22:24 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sergio_Fern=E1ndez?= Organization: Salzburg Research User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.11) Gecko/20121122 Icedove/10.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org CC: Joe Schaefer Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Expressing priorities about release reviews References: <1358010472.96257.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1358010472.96257.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Joe, personally I appreciate such policies checking from the IPMC members. The technical quality of a release is responsibility of the project itself, which could be hard to be evaluated by people working on other topics. Therefore, all additional checkpoints are useful and grateful. Cheers, On 12/01/13 18:07, Joe Schaefer wrote: > One of my long time pet peeves with how we > PMC members participate in vetting releases > is our penchant for focusing too much on the > policies surrounding license and notice info. > I really think our exclusive focus on things > that really don't pose any organizational risk > to either the org nor the project participants > serves us well in our other, often unexpressed > but far more relevant, goals about encouraging > committers to participate in active review of > their project's commit activity. > > Just think about this for a second, what's more > likely for people to start suing us over, some > bug in the NOTICE file or an undetected backdoor > in one of our programs? I am personally far more > concerned about the current state of the actual > review going on in our podlings than I am about > NOTICE minutia. > > Maybe we should compile some list of which committers > are actually subscribed to their project's commit lists? > It's crude but it may be useful data to look at to > a first order. > -- Sergio Fernández Salzburg Research +43 662 2288 318 Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II A-5020 Salzburg (Austria) http://www.salzburgresearch.at --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org