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From Matt Franklin <m.ben.frank...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release
Date Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:10:55 GMT
On Monday, January 21, 2013, Benson Margulies wrote:

> Matt, can you reference the policy that category A deps can't be
> sitting in svn in binary? Of course, these folks can learn to use ivy,
> maven, or maven-ant-tasks to reduce the need for this, but I'd like to
> be clear on whether this is required behavior or not. I thought that a
> source package could incorporate binaries of at least 'A'
> dependencies, but I am happy to be corrected. And svn is yet another
> question.


I am referring to this discussion  http://s.apache.org/MUZ


> It's common practice to pin to a defined version of a dependency and
> not track it willy-nilly, so 'evolve or change' is not the issue here.


 Pinning a version is not what I was talking about.  Pinning dependencies
can be done many ways and based on the above referenced discussion, copying
compiled jars into source control is not one we engage in.

 I was specifically referring to the models that are packaged as jars.  If
they are produced by cTAKES , then it seems odd to keep them archived in
source control.  If they are released by another organization, why are they
not just externally referenced and pulled in at build or run time?


> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Matt Franklin <m.ben.franklin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Masanz, James J.
> > <Masanz.James@mayo.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> Regarding the comment about compiled jars in the source tree:
> >>
> >> The following jars, even though they are under src directories, contain
> resources (models), not Java classes.
> >>
> >> conll-2009-dev-shift-pop.jar
> >> dummy.dep.mod.jar
> >> mayo-dep.jar
> >> wordnet-3.0-lemma-data.jar
> >> dummy.srl.mod.jar
> >> en_srl_ontonotes.jar
> >> mayo-srl.jar
> >> clearparser_models.jar
> >>
> >> degree_of/model.jar
> >> em_pair/model.jar
> >> modifier_extractor/model.jar
> >>
> >> Are there other jars you were referring to?
> >
> > ./ctakes-assertion/lib/jcarafe-core_2.9.1-0.9.8.3.RC4.jar
> > ./ctakes-assertion/lib/jcarafe-ext_2.9.1-0.9.8.3.RC4.jar
> > ./ctakes-assertion/lib/med-facts-i2b2-1.2-SNAPSHOT.jar
> > ./ctakes-assertion/lib/med-facts-zoner-1.1.jar
> > ./ctakes-constituency-parser/lib/libsvm-2.91.jar
> > ./ctakes-coreference/lib/commons-io-2.1.jar
> > ./ctakes-coreference/lib/commons-lang3-3.0.1.jar
> > ./ctakes-coreference/lib/Jama-1.0.2.jar
> > ./ctakes-coreference/lib/libsvm-2.91.jar
> > ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/args4j-2.0.16.jar
> > ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/clearparser-0.33.jar
> > ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/cleartk-util-0.8.1.jar
> > ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/commons-io-2.0.1.jar
> > ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/commons-lang-2.4.jar
> > ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/commons-logging-1.1.1.jar
> > ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/hppc-0.3.1.jar
> > ./ctakes-dependency-parser/lib/uimafit-1.2.0.jar
> >
> > These are just a few that exist in SVN. All dependencies that are
> > compiled code need to be externally referenced.
> >
> > As for the models, I don' think there is any issue in keeping them in
> > jars, but the question is why?  Are they never going to evolve or
> > change?  Wouldn't you keep them as source and just package them as
> > jars for use at runtime?  As I said, this is not an issue, I am just
> > curious.
> >
> >>
> >> I will look at the NOTICE file this afternoon.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> James Masanz
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: general-return-39326-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org
> >>> [mailto:general-return-39326-Masanz.James=
> mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org]
> >>> On Behalf Of Masanz, James J.
> >>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:51 AM
> >>> To: 'general@incubator.apache.org'
> >>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release
> >>>
> >>> The result of the VOTE for 3.0.0-incubating on the dev list is at
> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ctakes-
> >>> dev/201301.mbox/browser
> >>>
> >>> The source artifact can be found in
> >>> http://people.apache.org/~chenpei/ctakes-3.0.0-incubating/rc5/target/
> >>>
> >>> I'll look at the jars and the root NOTICE file.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your review!
> >>> -- James Masanz
> >>>
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: general-return-39325-Masanz.James=
> mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org
> >>> > [mailto:general-return-39325-Masanz.James
> =mayo.edu@incubator.apache.or
> >>> > g]
> >>> > On Behalf Of Matt Franklin
>

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