Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF969ECE9 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 33941 invoked by uid 500); 17 Dec 2012 12:57:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 33634 invoked by uid 500); 17 Dec 2012 12:57:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 33626 invoked by uid 99); 17 Dec 2012 12:57:47 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:57:47 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of grobmeier@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.175] (HELO mail-ob0-f175.google.com) (209.85.214.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:57:40 +0000 Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id vb8so5525569obc.6 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:57:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=OIHXIobbKykxGcAfGH+ZkK87UdjH7FBiGPCbGTVHYBc=; b=LvshhbjYy6lmPqARpN8KWZc4bpgC9HDGqEZcSBqPmKntAnneCEdIhB+E/ttJF9xEGf OhwYrPknLQi40zZEd/OShiH03075+yWuPHS6FeoIQMAHSEw1CnMK4lDoZ7oojyuLWakC 6NIj4UEM4iwnrwhpvlGNeydbEVS0ZWLu7hIhWG1qtqzmiCtAgpbhaMS9ydQ3oTa4t9WO +DAMLvI7UvM0fXDHgYiKRqaxZlYp80NU360GsSMmmLDRvJbtqj7nLbM0EzM7Y5tkbsEq TL9HnCOCFKuXWKVvj8N8YUjuk7jflQ6iOzSHnKamNzXNT0WSanZz7Dp03jt1Pc1cp8fl qTGg== Received: by 10.60.31.142 with SMTP id a14mr11585908oei.118.1355749039122; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:57:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.168.201 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:56:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Christian Grobmeier Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:56:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More and better report nagging To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: >> I really don't object, but when the podling has graduated, they don't >> have such a reminder. >> >> What I am trying to say: the podling gets an reminder. It should be >> possible to just write this report without nagging. If they don't do >> it, it's a signal that "something went wrong". Now if you nag, >> somebody would do it finally. But it would no longer reflect if people >> actually care on the project or just want to make these e-mails stop. > > Please have mercy upon me. I'm the chair. I'm responsible for a > complete report. I found it labor intensive to check for all the > reports, and to manually nag the laggards. If it makes you feel > better, you could view this as my personal tool to automate a task > that I have to do anyway. I have mercy. Do whatever you think fits best to you. In my opinion constant nagging is not necessary - "did not report" does the job as well as this line is a report as well; if a project constantly fails report to report its more a matter to retirement than to play kindergardener. Again, I do not object. Just wanted to give a you my thoughts. Cheers >> >> Of course, some Mentors nag when a report is not done. Finally it does >> also reflect on the Mentors. >> >> That said, i am no opposed if somebody would enable that feature, but >> on the other hand i think it is good as it is now. >> >> Cheers >> Christian >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> I see how I could arrange for Marvin or someone like him to bug >>> podlings until they actually deliver a report if they are due in the >>> cycle. >>> >>> To enable this, I'll add a >>> >>> [ ] Add an X between the brackets when the report is complete. >>> >>> to the template. >>> >>> This could be taken to gentle reminders to individual mentors. >>> >>> Would anyone find this sort of thing objectionable? >>> >>> Now that I've figured out the MoinMoin XMLRPC api, I am positively dangerous. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> https://www.timeandbill.de >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org