Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2582DDA07 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2012 14:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28574 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2012 14:55:38 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 28210 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2012 14:55:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 28149 invoked by uid 99); 1 Dec 2012 14:55:34 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:55:34 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of rgardler@opendirective.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.217.175] (HELO mail-lb0-f175.google.com) (209.85.217.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:55:26 +0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id gg13so1127921lbb.6 for ; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:55:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=opendirective.com; s=opendirective; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=i8Dlgon6KM38tlwhTP5R5OZ065/8HdRdR/8FY4MNFLU=; b=UC0L05n1ymJqdscRsQp2+P0SU8nl3/BOBfX3T6pVeHrVRfqFEspp4c9g39aOzHbEzQ aKZqSWIgO/ShqqzDNBN8ku1uhtCXjbuMmJGByVxf9lqx8FfffstHMXvYZEow7HGlTSvy xN6W7OTsKDJWwRt20tjsp9SvODFCGMg+aXaGU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=i8Dlgon6KM38tlwhTP5R5OZ065/8HdRdR/8FY4MNFLU=; b=P3UtpgUpx9bppXxfP80xoomMNiLfKxJfTL0GaC4XtOxPIP7YBWt89Tp6itNANHHCZ7 RxrYlqg8GGU2tG+FWNCTD+ClEbxvRlaOR7lXI1U3Cpv+fcYlwEoZi1GWeyqSzq3oIpvx HIy83UT2PLXJGs/Ye1shLMGmsCPUJW0V24bwg8gwCixcDYDtQ0kCEj+Vj1rfoIvtzXsU aFKIbqT2Jd1V0h21kmlWRSLjaN6wA8o/LMmbrn1uvyWvLi/7NQJ2odWx8V847jZSMx0t Ih0ndTafV12g7tGv5Tr7j7ipecYtJUO3N0fKmI3yWf0koNg9W68vom8oGxavqJjC0rrw 5Mtg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.110.74 with SMTP id hy10mr4453133lab.54.1354373706051; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:55:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.16.232 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Dec 2012 06:55:05 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [81.129.248.199] Received: by 10.114.16.232 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Dec 2012 06:55:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50BA194E.1030506@apache.org> References: <50B990E6.8010801@apache.org> <50BA194E.1030506@apache.org> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 14:55:05 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Invoke silent consensus rule for podling releases From: Ross Gardler To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54ee8c8a470b404cfcbb396 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmfAUjOZ+athSrR+njIvw2HNw1HmkwtsGU6BnhIht8aY39ogr/zCA4hF+FptjpDFkCawE1i X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --bcaec54ee8c8a470b404cfcbb396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That tool would be useful in more places than the incubator. Great idea. I'm looking forward to seeing it ;-) Sent from my tablet On Dec 1, 2012 2:51 PM, "Branko =C4=8Cibej" wrote: > On 01.12.2012 15:06, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Branko =C4=8Cibej w= rote: > >> It's quite frustrating that people find time to write hundreds of mail= s > >> about points of procedure, but can't take time to review a release > >> tarball from a podling. > > Reviewing a release when you are not directly involved as a developer i= s > > **really hard**. > > > > As an IPMC member yourself, have you ever reviewed a release for podlin= g > you > > were not involved with? > > Yes. In fact, I spent time reviewing AOO incubator releases. Don't > recall if I actually voted on one; probably not, since there were so > many other active IPMC members all over that. > > > I hereby propose we extend the silent consensus rule to podling > > release votes. > > -1 > > > > That's at odds with basic, ASF-wide rules for voting on releases. > > I know; but it got everyone's attention, didn't it. :) > > What I'd more seriously like to propose is that we come up with a tool > that slurps the general@ archives and pings the list once a week with a > reminder about outstanding votes. I'll happily invest my copious free > time towards that, if the IPMC agrees such a tool would be useful. > > -- Brane > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --bcaec54ee8c8a470b404cfcbb396--