Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CEEEDB7F for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 67639 invoked by uid 500); 19 Dec 2012 17:59:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 67455 invoked by uid 500); 19 Dec 2012 17:59:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 67444 invoked by uid 99); 19 Dec 2012 17:59:03 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:59:03 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of rgardler@opendirective.com designates 209.85.215.46 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.46] (HELO mail-la0-f46.google.com) (209.85.215.46) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:58:56 +0000 Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id p5so1725487lag.33 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:58:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=opendirective.com; s=opendirective; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=BjPiADH7d+e0IYcwLNq5qCV6rUielsWjSofsUctaoqs=; b=TjCY9xAb0DGRberl86rYe9ULqlCkdkoK+P5GrKd9oEUXKaA7lQRoeXtwseaqdMIbdq fhvM/KHiUoT/7csjCBHnZyFcfBjlHNMMqQvZRo0CUISbWA2iGhjsIjWwGu2+w2TqVogL H++KdxZXZE4uuyajvFacfQJMpKa7tc4fCxzsQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=BjPiADH7d+e0IYcwLNq5qCV6rUielsWjSofsUctaoqs=; b=dabf3WAHxWpVmqaV2xOuF3e8LW+1+Url/tarjcdFaWuhDb/SwQUdCUKWyehUDgT2Xa pIcywJLOboP2HG2oD9g0gR9Js/sPL2rZQvd8PIwsx0wf0BaLKPqQTGU8S5FDmyr5BwVV XHpV7PE6ATFcW0SK7+49gGboPUK/U5bViE2ovQnxZJrd+cteev1vVkZBMsKfO60ZQg6q extmjR+iUc6upWFsfmneiM1oVnBUMTe8JoYepw3LNz9QpyizXVpt9nlV1PGUrwEDwAmZ llV79jBl75HK/B1hs8qM9P+bEfQVOvxdqQYKUhvNGf9k5X3I7E2mwzQI773ttlYUpWTe DJkg== Received: by 10.112.54.40 with SMTP id g8mr371410lbp.76.1355939916180; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:58:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.18.201 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:57:55 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [81.156.146.182] In-Reply-To: References: From: Ross Gardler Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:57:55 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PPMC versus commiter To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec55555560a6bc004d1385d68 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnVLJhBogtyEszWnW0tEik2PIK0d/WBblYuorzIK3D/VWHph+j1nRTAOTY8F8KTL7aVrxth X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --bcaec55555560a6bc004d1385d68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 19 December 2012 13:33, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > The status quo seems to be that podlings tend to inherit their Mentors' > beliefs. That may please no one, but I cringe at the thought of trying to > "resolve" this one way or another. Consensus would mean one side losing > after > a long, bloody battle. > > I hope this is not the case. I hope mentors impartially explain the benefits and drawbacks of each approach and then let the PPMC make up their mind. If a mentor is pushing their own preferred route then they are not doing their job as a mentor in my opinion (an exception being made where a mentor is also active on the project and thus has the equivalent of a "binding vote" on the PPMC). Ross > > > -- > Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > Programme Leader (Open Development) > OpenDirective http://opendirective.com --bcaec55555560a6bc004d1385d68--